Iron Wolf Pictures?

Friday, January 31, 2003 4:20 PM
I was wondering if anyone that surfs coasterbuzz here, had or knows of any websites that have pictures of the layout of Iron Wolf. On most sites I've seen such as rcdb.com the only pictures show the loop and lift hill, thanks.

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Friday, January 31, 2003 5:35 PM
Well, here are a few more pics of Iron Wolf.

http://www.sfgamworld.com/Photos/SFGAmPics/Iron%20Wolf/IronWolf/index.shtml

You have to remember that the second half of the ride is hidden within alot trees and away from the midway. Its almost impossible to get a pic of the layout.

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Friday, January 31, 2003 8:27 PM
Coastergallery.com also has some pictures of Iron Wolf.
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Rob


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Friday, January 31, 2003 8:34 PM
It looks like the sametrains as on Batman The escape at SFAW. Did Intamin build these trains or B&M (They must have done it as part of Intamin)?

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Chris Knight
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Saturday, February 1, 2003 5:56 AM
Intamin built Batman the escape while B&M were with them. Iron Wolf was B&M's first coaster away from Intamin. actually, there are two sets of trains. when the ride first opened, B&M used trains very similar to the ones used on standups they built with Intamin, but in the last couple years SFGA bought new trains for IW which are the trains that B&M now use on their standups. so you might encounter pics of two different types of trains.

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-Bob (formerly Coaster Jedi)
Matt 1989-2003

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Saturday, February 1, 2003 6:40 AM
yeah like chitown siad it is very hard to see the back half of IW. After the false mcbr it gose into a steep hill and then a cork. Then it dose a few tight turns up into the final brakes. It is a great ride.

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Saturday, February 1, 2003 7:34 AM
At the Stand Up And Celebrate event back in 1990, attendees (myself included) were given lithographs of Iron Wolf's layout. It was a 3D artist rendering in white on a blue background. I'm not sure if my copy is still around or not. But like others have commented, the ride is hard to photograph. It is very well placed in the trees. Good luck finding an aerial photo. That would be your best bet.

Anyone know why they removed the midcourse brake? Did they decide it wasn't worth maintaining?

I doubt this will do you any good, but I just remembered there's an artisit's rendering of the layout in an old issue of RollerCoaster magazine. I believe it's the one with the Arnold's Park Coaster/Legend on the front cover (wow, it's amazing what I remember sometimes). It would have come in the winter of `89 or spring/summer of `90. All my mags are back at home (I'm at Iowa State).
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-Matt in Iowa
195 coasters ridden -- Faves: Shivering Timbers, Ghostrider, Twister, Hershey Wildcat, Lightning Racer

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Saturday, February 1, 2003 7:42 AM

SFGA Bob said:
actually, there are two sets of trains. when the ride first opened, B&M used trains very similar to the ones used on standups they built with Intamin, but in the last couple years SFGA bought new trains for IW which are the trains that B&M now use on their standups. so you might encounter pics of two different types of trains.

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-Bob (formerly Coaster Jedi)
Matt 1989-2003


Actually before the 2000 season, SFGAm installed the big yellow Shoulder Harnesses used on the new B&M trains and kept the old trains. I think this may account for the more frequent headbanging people talk about because there is a lot less head room on these OTSRs than the old ones. I wish that SFGAm would replace the whole train, cause the old ones they use seem a lot more clunky and shaky than the new trains and i think a completey new train would solve that problem for the most part.

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SFGAm Viper

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Saturday, February 1, 2003 7:48 AM
I've got pictures of the back end, taken from in the kiddie area.... won't be the clearest stuff, but it might help somewhat.

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Saturday, February 1, 2003 7:51 AM
Adix (or anyone else) anything you have would be a great help....if you could send them to me LBCfan120@hotmail.com

thanks

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Saturday, February 1, 2003 8:01 AM
no, they replaced the whole train, SFGAm Viper. you can tell by the bicycle seat. its a lot larger now, just like all new B&M standups.

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-Bob (formerly Coaster Jedi)
Matt 1989-2003

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Saturday, February 1, 2003 8:47 AM
Well, if they replaced the whole train, they must have forgotten, or just decided not to replace, the nose car. Iron Wolf's '0' car is the small, rectangular old style.

Look at a picture of Mantis, Riddler, Chang, Scorcher, etc. to see the difference. The new ones are much more streamlined.

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Saturday, February 1, 2003 9:13 AM
I know there's a difference between those zero cars, but the trains are new. either that or they replaced more than the restraints because there are a couple differences between the old and new cars.

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-Bob (formerly Coaster Jedi)
Matt the mutt 1989-2003
gimmie a hell yeah!

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Saturday, February 1, 2003 10:27 AM
You can't see too much from this, but this is the aerial from mapquest.com

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Saturday, February 1, 2003 10:35 AM
Here's a couple I took.

http://www.pbase.com/image/7091727

http://www.pbase.com/image/7091730

Not much to see other than the train, I had a few other pictures sitting around that I never got to scan. I'll look around for them.

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Saturday, February 1, 2003 10:57 AM
SFGA Bob, why do you think the trains are new? Yes they were put through a serious rehab, but the rolling stock has not changed even though the passanger restraints, bicycle seats, etc have been changed.

The chassis and shells of 2nd generation B&M standups has changed since the ones that are still on Iron Wolf.

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*** This post was edited by Peabody 2/1/2003 3:58:34 PM ***

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Saturday, February 1, 2003 12:32 PM
Again, The trains were not replaced. Only the harnesses and im sure occasionally they need to change the bicycle seats in the same way the sseats on Viper need to be fixed/replaced from time to time. The train its self is the same. I dont post what i dont know. Maybe Joe (Legendary) or another employee can verify this again for you.
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SFGAm Viper
*** This post was edited by SFGAm Viper 2/1/2003 5:33:36 PM ***
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Saturday, February 1, 2003 12:37 PM
http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery6.htm?Picture=2

there are the old harnesses, on the same trains

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SFGAm Viper

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Saturday, February 1, 2003 12:39 PM
Ahh! little off topic...
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Saturday, February 1, 2003 2:18 PM
Just to back up what others have said, no Iron Wolf's trains were *never* replaced. The trains running on the ride now are the same ones that ran in 1990 when it opened. The restraints and seats changed but *not* the entire train.

The second half of the ride is quite simple - after the drop off the "fake midcourse" (which banks slightly to the right), there's a flatspin to the left, then a figure-8 into the brakes. If you look at Raging Bull's second half, it's basically the same thing, Bull's is just bigger (obviously) and comes in fron the right rather than from over the figure-8.

To clarify, Iron Wolf never had a midcourse brake run. The ride was most definitely designed to allow for three-train operation (with the midcourse) but never opened that way because, obviously, it was unnecessary on such a short ride.

-Nate

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