inverted xcelerator?

Wednesday, June 12, 2002 5:56 PM
imagine taking the tophat upside down on the outside. Anyone think this is a possibility at some point? Intamin does have the inverted lim thing down(wt, v2, volcano).
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Wednesday, June 12, 2002 6:43 PM
It could happen, but I doubt it. If a park wants an inverted coaster with LIM's, they'll probably just order some form of an impulse. Takes up less space.
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Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:00 PM
I think thats next on Intamins list
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Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:04 PM
Xcelerator doesn't use LIM's. It uses a new kind of launch which is similar (kind of) to MF's cable lift, except faster (of course)
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Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:12 PM

Yeah, doesn't it use the pneumatic launch system. Kinda Shuttle Loopers.

I think we'll see that kind of inversion soon. Who knows, maybe the designers search sites like this looking for ideas. Besides it doesn't have to be a launched coaster.

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Wednesday, June 12, 2002 7:51 PM

Wickedtwist02 said:
Xcelerator doesn't use LIM's. It uses a new kind of launch which is similar (kind of) to MF's cable lift, except faster (of course)

Uhm, you're wrong as well. How can all of you think it is runs on LIMs? And something similar to Millennium Force? That is a joke! Xcelerator is the world's first hydraulic catapult coaster. With this, the ride is able to maintain its 2 G acceleration the whole way through unlike the LIM, LSM, Pneumatic, Flywheel and Weight Drop catapults.

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Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:00 PM

It uses a hydraulic launch system. I believe it's more like Hypersonic's launch because they seem to use some of the same launch equipment.

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Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:14 PM

kraxleridah: perhaps people think that Xcelerator is a LIM launch because that's what Intamin has been using for the past few years. and if Phaethon is right, then it is very similar to MF's lift. in any case, you need to calm down and realize that there are some things that other people don't know. the same way there are some things that you don't know. try explaining things to people without making them feel stupid and you'll seem like a genius. continue telling people they're stupid and you'll continue to seem like a jerk.

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Wednesday, June 12, 2002 9:03 PM

DaCoasterMan said:
imagine taking the tophat upside down on the outside. Anyone think this is a possibility at some point? Intamin does have the inverted lim thing down(wt, v2, volcano).


Actually, the tophat on Xcellerator does not invert. I've seen video footage and it is obviously not an inversion if you've seen it. An inverted tophat would be very nice, and hopefully if it is built it's built near me.

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Wednesday, June 12, 2002 9:11 PM
I'm going to crawl out on a limb here and say that DaCoasterman was not saying that xcelerator is inverted....but merely wouldn't it be cool if there were to be one some day some place else. I believe I read his post this way...am I wrong?

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Wednesday, June 12, 2002 11:58 PM

It is similar to Millennium Force in the sense that it uses cables to pull it along. You could simplify it to Millennium Force only with a faster motor for explanation purposes, but in reality, the only close similarity to MF is the use of cables.

Also, it is perfectly possible to have a constant acceleration on many other launch systems. Just the fact that it certainly doesn't need to be done to get a fast launch is really the only thing stopping other rides doing this.

I'm doing a bit of the physics to see if all the numbers work out. If anyone has more exact measures of the speeds acceleration, and weight of trains would help a heap, email me or post it here, all good.

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Wednesday, June 12, 2002 11:59 PM
I would rather have a huge pop of airtime and be yanked down with a vertical twist than have a Mr. Freeze pull-off like an inverting top-hat...

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Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:17 AM
Only problem i see with the hydraulic launch is the current launch shuttle connects to a cable inside the drive building at the ground level. if you make it inverted you would have to have the cable above the car.
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Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:12 AM

kRaXLeRidAh: It is like Millennium Force's lift system, just a hell of a lot faster. It's driven with a big drum, has a cable in a continuous loop, and hooks under the train... just like Millennium Force. The difference is that the drum is driven by a flood of hydraulic power, which gets it spinning in a hurry.

Regarding an inverted version of Xcelerator, think about this... you'd have to put a lot of that equipment, at least the drum and its drive, above the track and support it well enough to deal with the "yank." That's a lot of complexity.

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Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:43 AM

You wouldn't have to place the drum and other mechanicals above track level. You could place the drum on the ground beside the track with it's axis parallel to the track and use pulleys to redirect the cable to a right angle from the track then down onto the drum. Not sure it would actually work though because of the speed of the cable.

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Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:51 AM
In not looking at the photos (probably a bad thing) I can think of this possible solution. Why not leave the drum, et al at ground level, supported nicely with whatever is needed, and just dig out an area for the train UNDER it all. I've got to assume the drum width is sufficient for something to pass underneath. Ahh the possibilities.
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Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:16 PM
I like the thought process of the last one. The ground can support the weight, but a subteranean station. Do you work for Alton Towers? Sounds like something they'd do.
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