Inverted with a normal type drop?

Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:22 PM
See if you follow me here....
With all the B&M clones in the world, is there any inverted coasters with say a steep drop or I guess like a normal drop? All those have the turn in to the first drop. Just curious why not an inverted with a straight drop kinda like that of Deja Vu..I dont mean the steep part necessarily...Do you follow what I am saying? A friend and I were having that discussion recently. Never gave it much thought i guess. More compact? space saving??
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Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:35 PM
More exciting to build it so you can see more than just the back of the car in front of you gettin closer. That's how I see it anyways. Most inverted coasters are designed so that there are very few parts of the ride where you actually see the track right in front of you.
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Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:47 PM
If you use the search function you will find countless threads on this subject.
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Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:12 PM
If I'm not mistaken, this is as close to a straight drop as you'll find on any Beemer Invert:

http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery764.htm?Picture=23

Looks amazing, would love to ride this bad boy! *** Edited 3/18/2004 10:13:18 PM UTC by jomo***

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Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:42 PM
I asked this question many moons ago and I remember Jeff saying that it gives that extra kick when the drop is curved. I think DD:Fire, Raptor and Great Bear have semi straight drops also.
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Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:44 PM
Fire Dragon curves left from the lift, Raptor goes left, Great Bear helicies (?) left, but does end up going straight.

I think he means straight off the chain a-la Nitro.

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Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:49 PM
Ahhh...my bad. I didnt RTFQ!

Wouldn't the cars touch each at the other since the curvature would be smaller. I dunno...good question though!

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Thursday, March 18, 2004 6:11 PM
It's what Antuan said - the added height of the trains means that when there's even a relatively tiny downward curve of the track, it results in a far greater movement of the cars towards each other. Even if they don't really touch, you don't want people's feet getting *involved* with the car in front when speed and rapid changing of direction is involved.

This is why they've always got curved drops, why you never see bunny hills, and why the camelback on an SLC banks to about 90º to the side.

Once they've passed the downward curving section of the drop and are heading down at a constant angle (unlikely on a B&M) or flattening out, they can be as straight as they want, because the cars are either not moving relative to each other or moving away from each other.

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Thursday, March 18, 2004 6:39 PM
Cheaper to build the drop back into itself or beside the lifthill than spreading the footprint out with a straight drop as well.
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Thursday, March 18, 2004 7:35 PM
Ok, I get it now. But if the radius was big enough, couldn't a straight drop be done like this, only instead of curving, just keep dropping it straight?:

http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery805.htm?Picture=1


This is why they've always got curved drops, why you never see bunny hills, and why the camelback on an SLC banks to about 90º to the side.


Never say never ;o)

http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery558.htm?Picture=4

This one is hard to see, but Pyrenees finishes with this bunny hop finale you see underneath:

http://ft.digital-coaster.com/country/japan/parque/pyrenees/index.8.gif

*** Edited 3/19/2004 12:39:16 AM UTC by jomo***

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Thursday, March 18, 2004 10:07 PM
Fire Dragon has a camelback (the best of the ride) and on all of the Batman rides, it's pretty easy to "reach out and touch someone" with your feet. At least, it's easy if you're reasonably tall.

It's also possible to do the same with your feet on the floorless coasters.

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Thursday, March 18, 2004 10:13 PM
Talon has a camelback right before the brakes as well.
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Thursday, March 18, 2004 10:53 PM
Talon's camelback has a little bit of twist/turn to it though. You're definitely not going straight the whole time...
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Thursday, March 18, 2004 11:08 PM
Anyone notice that SLC he's got a picture of in England has the most appropriate SLC name in the world? ;)
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Thursday, March 18, 2004 11:24 PM
I guess it does, and its even named after an english soda brand, lol (Tizer), also, http://rcdb.com/installationgallery1413.htm?Picture=2 <<Jubilee Odyssey has a pretty stright drop (it turns to the left about 90 degrees, but after that its pretty strait) It also has one of the steepest drops on an inverted coaster.
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Friday, March 19, 2004 1:39 AM
I think the twisting drop makes the ride better because it disorientates you. Think about it, I love Great Bear but I never get disorientated during the ride (the helix is too slow) every other invert I get increadbly disorientated on, which adds to the ride experience for me.
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Friday, March 19, 2004 8:50 AM
Traumatizer is, interestingly enough, the smoothest SLC I've ever ridden.
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