Intamin Smooth?

Monday, May 17, 2004 10:48 AM
Hi, I always hear of how B&M's are smooth (not that I don't like B&M's) but I never really hear anything about Intamin smoothness. I rode Superman @ SFDL, and from what I can remember it was really smooth. I just want to know some opinions on Intamin's smoothness? Thanks
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Monday, May 17, 2004 10:54 AM
Intamins are generally very smooth coasters- as good (if not better) than B&M coasters. Considering that Werner Stengel designs coasters for both companies, it should come as no surprise.
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Monday, May 17, 2004 11:04 AM
And yet Stengel also designed Son of Beast. Hmmm...
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Monday, May 17, 2004 11:05 AM
Stengel also did SOB.

I do think B&Ms are a hair smoother than Intamins. I remember my last ride on SROS at SFA being a little shaky. Nothing as horrendous as Magnum....maybe it just needed a wheelchange.

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Monday, May 17, 2004 11:53 AM
I also read that Stengal recommended another technology be used for SOB's tracking. Whether or not that is true or not...
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Monday, May 17, 2004 11:53 AM
I don't think the roughness of SoB is caused by Stengels design but it's more caused by the track and cars that are used for a such huge ride. I would be pretty sure that with Stengels own laminated track design it would have been a smoother experience.
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Monday, May 17, 2004 12:18 PM
If you rode Colossus at Thorpe Park you wouldn't think Intamin's are smooth that thing is almost as rough as the Corkscrew at Alton Towers and thats been there 25 years. *** Edited 5/17/2004 4:18:34 PM UTC by aflack***
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Monday, May 17, 2004 12:32 PM
Intamins are smooth.

B&M's are smooth.

They both feel completely different.

I would wager that Stengel doesn't have a lot to do with it.

The end. *** Edited 5/17/2004 4:32:15 PM UTC by matt.***

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Monday, May 17, 2004 1:07 PM
Intamins willcontinue to be the smoothest and the greatest rides imo. Remember B&M were originally part of Intamin but then they left to form there own company. SO pretty much B&M ows much of there greatness to Intamin.
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Monday, May 17, 2004 1:23 PM
No, I think that B&M owes their greatness to B&M. If you look at the coasters that B&M designed while they were working for Intamin, you'll see that they have very little in common with anything that Intamin was doing at the time.

Intamin makes great coasters, but give B&M credit for what they have done!

I wonder if Stengel was referring to using Intamin's "Plug and Play" technology when talking about SOB?

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Monday, May 17, 2004 2:10 PM

Rob Ascough said:I wonder if Stengel was referring to using Intamin's "Plug and Play" technology when talking about SOB?

"Intamins Plug and Play technology" is officially known as "Werner Stengels Prefabricated Track technology".

Intamin only used it on their Colossos and Balder rides. The technique is (c) Werner Stengel and the first track segments were made at Cordes, Germany:

www.cordes-row.de

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Monday, May 17, 2004 2:17 PM
Intamins are smooth, but not with the glassy feeling of B&M's. The only rough Intamin that I have ridden is the stand up at La Ronde which is a bit of a head banger.
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Monday, May 17, 2004 2:20 PM
Belgian: All the more reason for me to wonder if that is what he is talking about.

And thanks for the "real" name; Plug-N-Play sounds stupid anyway.

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Monday, May 17, 2004 2:22 PM
Intamins are smooth, almost as smooth as B&Ms, but they generally seem to "rumble" a little more. It feels as though the trains on Intamins are somewhat lighter - but then, some of the newer B&Ms have that peculiar "vibration".
Intamin is less into creating a natural-feeling dynamic flow of the coaster as is B&M (up to now, at least).
Intamins generally eject you from your seat more often and in a bigger variety of ways - most B&Ms would on the other hand - 'in theory' - be possibly ridden without a restraint system. B&M might give this up in the future to create new spectacular ride ideas, as many of their rides therefore feature similar elements at the moment.
Especially Intamin's latest pony, "Storm Runner" features some purposeful deviations from the ideal tracking path, in order to generate certain kinds of unexpected feelings for the riders.

So... if Airtime, Hangtime, etc. and intense negative Gs are your thing, Intamin delivers more of that. But if smoothness and physically fascinating design is what you want - B&M is the choice.
I like both - but I personally find the B&M approach more fascinating.

*** Edited 5/17/2004 6:29:16 PM UTC by superman***

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Monday, May 17, 2004 2:26 PM
Intamin's are smooth, but they can be very vibrational, which I've noticed on SROS and MF. However on TTD, the launch was as smooth as glass. B&M's are probably more smooth, but intamin's have a unique feeling that makes them fun. Besides, Intamin's designs are a bit more daring that B&M.
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Monday, May 17, 2004 2:28 PM
And consequently, Intamins are less reliable!

Give a little, take a little...

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Monday, May 17, 2004 2:58 PM

Intamin said:
Intamins willcontinue to be the smoothest and the greatest rides imo. Remember B&M were originally part of Intamin but then they left to form there own company. SO pretty much B&M ows much of there greatness to Intamin.

You should have stopped with your first sentence, because you proved your own ignorance with all that blather afterwards. What are YOU talking about B&M OWS (sic) Intamin anything. Explain how Intamin can claim anything since they both spawned from Schwarzkopf. Look at the track on Schwartzkopf and Intamin..

Mind Bender : http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery37.htm?Picture=6

Goliath : http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery1565.htm?Picture=42

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Monday, May 17, 2004 3:04 PM
... and since B&M came out of Giovanella ...
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Monday, May 17, 2004 3:08 PM
Brian, remember....whenever you use *my 'Bender* as an example of Anton's greatness, I get a commission...:)

Oh, and Dawn and Tina said Ga Cyclone was too rough during Spring Fling...I have to admit *I* still found it on the FUN side of rough, but it was nowhere NEAR where the coaster was when we closed it down last season...ALWAYS an intense ride, but not normally as "bang-y"....still better than that woodie in South Georgia, YIKES!

*** Edited 5/17/2004 7:09:31 PM UTC by rollergator***

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Monday, May 17, 2004 3:16 PM
Don't bring my baby up in this conversation Bill. We're talking steel smoothness here, not coaster perfection. ;)
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