Intamin SLC's

Tuesday, May 11, 2004 5:24 PM
Why are there no Intamin SLC's in the states? Cost? How does their cost compare to say Intamin Impulses, Vekoma SLC's & Impulses, and B&M Inverts?

http://rcdb.com/installationresult.htm?column=1,10,3,4,5&model=175

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 5:26 PM
No one's wanted to build them, would be my first guess...

d8

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 5:26 PM
While it's not listed, Volcano is an Intamin Suspended Looping Coaster, except it's launched...but it's at PKD in VA...
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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 5:48 PM
Same reason there are no Giavonolla Inverts (which look GREAT)....no one has ordered them here.
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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 6:19 PM
Peabody, Giovanola went out of business (to my knowledge..?)... Also, there is only one Giovanola invert... which is Anaconda... It does look great, but the 2 seater trains look very wierd on B&M style (which is really Giovanola style) track.
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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 6:30 PM
i would think that its just that no parks want one.
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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 6:51 PM
Could it have anything to do with the fact that B&M has a US patent on inverts? Vekoma gets away with it by allowing the trains to swing a tiny bit, more akin to Arrow's suspended concept...
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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 7:12 PM
eh?

Does the Impulses allow for swinging also???

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 7:25 PM
A touch off-topic I know, but I'd just like to add that the Intamin inverter Tornado at Sarkanniemi in Finland is one of the very best inverters, indeed one of the very best coasters, I've ever ridden. The inline twist whilst passing through the loading station is sublime (and no, Dollywood didn't think of it first!)
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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 7:30 PM
Yes...sorta. Let's review seat supports:

B&M [fixed, no joint]

Intamin #1 [with joint]

Intamin #2 [This is the newest Intamin invert, Steel Venom...notice no joint, or perhaps it just doesn't show in this pic?]

Giavanola [fixed, no joint]

Vekoma [joint, with shocks as dampeners]

mOOSH

*** Edited 5/11/2004 11:33:38 PM UTC by Mamoosh***

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:29 PM
"Dampeners" my eye....;)

Maybe if they used a different TYPE of shock absorber? I dunno, there are Vekoma SLCs I enjoy...but they all seem to have that "classic Vekoma rattle". To some degree, I suppose I've learned how to ride them, but they're just very "solid" feeling, mostly attributable IMO to the rough contact between the wheels and the track, but translated through the seats to....the rider...:(

Now Volcano, I really like, the launch is nice and *smooth but powerful* (I'm a sucker for Inty, er, well, ANY launches), but I tend to think that the inversion TYPE as being limited by the train...

I guess what I'm getting at in response to Moosh is that the *seat support* largely determines whether the rider FEELS the bumps, but that the train/track wheel configuration goes a long way in deciding whether there's actually *bUmPiNeSs* to feel in the first place...does that make sense? ;)

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:24 PM

Coaster Lover said:
While it's not listed, Volcano is an Intamin Suspended Looping Coaster, except it's launched...but it's at PKD in VA...

Isn't Volcano actually an inverted and not suspended coaster? People tend to use the two terms loosley, but there is a difference. Or am I opening a can of worms here?

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:28 PM
The usage of the term "suspended" depends on the manufacturer. Its used to mean both coasters that swing [Arrow] and those that invert [Vekoma].
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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:51 PM
Gator's post makes it the first time I've seen the upper/lower case text thing make sense. :)

I always forget about Volcano. Though I was referring just the 'regular' SLC like the ones in Spain and Finland. It's odd seeing layouts like theirs, with Intamin track. I think most people are like me, in that they'd like the Vekoma SLC's if it weren't for the bang factor. So considering the Intamins look they have an even better layout, it seems they'd be a hit over here if they're smooth as a typical Intamin we have.


No one's wanted to build them, would be my first guess...


i would think that its just that no parks want one.

I knew these were coming. Almost made the question 'Why don't parks want them'.

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:17 AM
One reason why their might only be 1 instlation of a Giavanola inverted is the capacity. If you look on RCDB, it lists it at 600 pph.
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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:23 AM

Raptor Pilot said:


my first guess...




i would think that its just that no parks want one.

I knew these were coming. Almost made the question 'Why don't parks want them'.

Name me a few major amusement parks in the states that doesn't already have some sort of suspended roller coaster. Not see easy is it? There's the answer to your "Why don't parks want them?" question. Because MOST IF NOT ALL ALREADY HAVE SOME KIND OF INVERTED/SUSPENDED COASTER!

And Giovanola did not go bankrupt.

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 1:33 AM
SFFT. Or does it not count as a Major Park? None of the Disney parks, but they kinda don't count since they're not into thrill rides... cough cough CALIFORNIA SCREAMIN cough... hey it's even an Intamin ;-) Ooooh ooooh and Knott's Berr.... .oh wait.... heh .. my bad.

-Escher

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 3:25 AM
Giovanola has built as well the mobile "Eurostar" which features four seats per row.

AFAIK they just stopped offering coasters under their own name. The company is still around.

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 9:15 AM
Moosh- As for Giovanola's inverts not being jointed with suspenders, Anaconda also isn't in the US. A US patent doesn't apply beyond our borders. Also, the Intamin inverts are also not in the states. I dunno if the Impulses are rigid in design or not, however.

Oh, and PKI doesn't have an inverted coaster. A suspended, yes, but not an inverted.

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 9:52 AM
Shane - Intamin has six inverts in the US, one full-circuit launch [Volcano] and five launched shuttles [two named Steel Venom, two named V2, and Wicked Twister].

PKI does have an inverted coaster, a Vekoma Invertigo, Face/Off. It has three suspended coasters: Top Gun, Ghoster Coaster, and Runaway Reptar.

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