Intamin loopers?

Friday, February 14, 2003 10:16 AM
Hey was just at rcdb looking at the Intamin Sit Down Masterpiece of Colossus. Wow that coasterl looks great. I was just wondering does any other park have an intamin AG sit down looper of this type?

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Friday, February 14, 2003 10:50 AM
Yes, there are a couple:

Avalancha at Xetulul in Guatemala:

Monte Makaya at Terra Encantada in Brazil:

And of course the one going into Berjaya Times Square, which, only has 2 inversions, but from the video at IAAPA looked insane! Don't forget about Lethal Weapon at Warner Bros Movie World in Germany:

Which has similar inversions to Colossos' heartlines.

Hope this helps!

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Friday, February 14, 2003 10:55 AM
We musn't forget California Screamin

More in the Colossus vein, there is this beauty in Kuala Lampur (Note: These pics are taken well before the park was done being constructed/themed)

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Friday, February 14, 2003 11:04 AM
Wow cool. How do you think that these loopers compare (in cost and coolness) to one of the exact same dimensions but B+M or arrow. I think that Intamin would be in the middle of Them with Arrow Being on the lowside and Intamin and B+M runnin for the money. Looks fun. If a 310 ft., 90 mph coaster cost 25 mil then i'm guessin those cost in the ballpark of 15 mil. That sound right?

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*** This post was edited by Sideshow John 2/14/2003 4:05:06 PM ***

Friday, February 14, 2003 11:27 AM
I have no idea about the costs, but in terms of "how's the ride?", I must say Colossus blew me away. I was NOT expecting to have nearly as much fun as I did.

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Saturday, February 15, 2003 2:30 AM
Lethal Weapon in Germany is...well, lethal!

It has horrible rolling stock, which makes Togo feel like a Colani designed armchair!

I think that they have improved on Colossos with their new cars.

The ride in Germany is quite small and has very tight turns. The heartline is taken so slow that you get horrible hangtime. Don´t get me started about the headbanging on this one. Its really not a masterpiece of Stengel.

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Saturday, February 15, 2003 3:07 AM
Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Peril: Backwards! @ DLP is fun :)
Saturday, February 15, 2003 4:07 AM
But deadly :-p

DLRP should offer helmets for all riders on Indiana Jones

Saturday, February 15, 2003 8:15 AM
Want to know something real funny about Indiana Jones at DLP? Its not even a Intamin design! Its actually a.... Pinfari! The Pinfari model name is TL59. Pleasure Island in the UK has "Crazy Loop", which is a TL59. No wonder why its so violent, lol.
Saturday, February 15, 2003 8:37 AM
It's a brand new Intamin / GTec design. Pinfari has indeed a similar ride, but you don't say Anaconda is a B&M design just because Batman The Ride is similar too it ?

Anyway, Lethal Weapon Pursuit is a smooth and very fun coaster, yet it has older trains. They look brilliant (police cars), but they don't have any padding at all. Just pure hard plastic to sit on and hard OTSR's.
But it's fun, despite it's age (1996)

Saturday, February 15, 2003 11:35 AM
Belgian, you should read other peoples posts before posting. Then, it would be sort of mature if you would accept other people´s opinions. It is possible, that you dont have any headbanging on that excuse for a coaster, but I and many other people consider this ride to be very uncomfortable, badly paced and pooly maintained.

I have known Lethal Weapon before it was opened to the public, and even back then it was performing poorly. (BTW, since when is a ride built in 96 considered old?)

On the other hand, you are quite notorious for proclaiming statements as truth, but you never give any proof. (I wont start counting all your past "confirmed information" which were often hilarious and completely false.)

Inatmin are known for sticking their logo on rides they havent build. Absimilliard is a Disney employee, so he might have some info which you can only dream of.

Indiana Jones is not a clone of the Pinfari TL 59, but there were different companies involved in building this ride.

Growing up is an option.


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Saturday, February 15, 2003 7:35 PM
Here's the deal with Indiana Jones at DLP:

When park opened, its had one rollercoaster: Big Thunder Mountain. Nice, but the lines weren't!

In 1993, to boost the park, they added a slew of minor attractions. DLP contracted Intamin for a rollercoaster ASAP.

Intamin bought the design from Pinfari, worked on it a little and sold it to DLP then. The attraction was a temporary attraction, with a life span of 5 years. In 1999, its was closed for 6 months, reworked the track a little, modify the station and waiting line. Fast pass was installed and the old entrance eventually became a gift shop. As for the ride per se, before, its could only run 4 or 5 trains of 8 persons at once (this is where Intamin modified the ride, the original Pinfari design runs 2). In the rehab, its was modified to be able to run 6 trains at once, with 12 persons in each.) Problem is, to keep the weight of the trains down... they got away with the padding, meaning the only padding remaining is... 2 black stripes for the back and a very hard headrest... the harnesses remained the same (climbs very high above the head). You basically sit in a hollow and thin fiberglass shell.

The trains are now backward and knowing the sharp curves presents on all Pinfari designs... think of the results.

Also, the new trains and the wear on the track means the attraction is going to go away, eventually.

P.S.: I've seen Indiana Jones from the back of it (which you never see from the normal POV) and yes, its a clone of the TL59, even the brakes are at the same place, except for the different station arrangement and the blocking of the ride.
*** This post was edited by Absimilliard 2/16/2003 12:38:10 AM ***

Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:31 AM
I read an article on roughness of rides last year and it mentioned a woman who develped a brain condition from Indiana Jones, she had to have a permanent shunt put in her head and has to have fluids released periodically (it's every week or month or something like that, I don't remember real well.) There's no doubt she got quite a settlement being that it was Disney's ride, but, it makes me think twice about riding it.

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Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:27 AM
tricktrack, I've never said other people have wrong opinions, I just said my experiences with Lethal Weapon Pursuit are much better. I enjoyed the ride alot.

And do I have to give a source for every sentence I write ? I mostly give sources when I have information regarding new rides, or when people ask something, I usually give some extra information on where to find it...
I know some people, mostly from Germany (no offence), who are a little bit anti-me, but there's really no reason to.
I enjoy themeparks alot and I'm a proud member of many associations, but I'm also mature enough to know what's happening in the business. But you should know too that some parks like to change ideas and that can result in a new ride eventually not being built. (Tripsdrill for example is a real champion in changing ideas)
Another thing is some of the people who are very helpful in finding information about parks/rides don't like to have their names on the internet. So I just put 'good source' or something like that under a news post, if you would e-mail me, I would probably give some more details, but not on a public forum.
End of intermezzo.

Monday, February 17, 2003 12:12 AM
Just a short interruption in this debate from my part. I'm not German, but I'm also anti-you Belgian. ;) But hey, it's a free world, and you get to have your own opinion!

I agree with tricktrack, Lethal Weapon Pursuit is very rough, and the trains.. well.. they suck. You can barely see anything, and there's no padding what so ever. Hard to believe that's an Intamin ride.

And yes, a coaster built in '96 is considered old in 2003. Lets refrase that. I consider a coaster built in '96 old.

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Monday, February 17, 2003 5:35 AM
The incident you're referring to is from Disneyland's Indiana Jones ride, not DLP's roller coaster. The non-fact-checking reporters often referred to it as a 'Roller Coaster' when reporting the news.

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