Ingenieur Büro Stengel and B&M?

Friday, June 9, 2006 1:24 PM
In this picture

http://www.rcdb.com/ig1169.htm?picture=27


This coaster manufacturer looks exactly like B&M with the exception of the "2" accross seating. The track is box style track, and the elements are exactly like a B&M invert. Even the supports are the same.

Did the manufacturer (Ingenieur Büro Stengel GmbH) Work wit B&M on this coaster, or is this a totally different design that looks VERY similar to a B&M invert?

Here is a picture of a typical B&M invert

http://www.rcdb.com/ig24.htm?picture=10

See the striking similarities?

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Friday, June 9, 2006 1:28 PM
I think the real question is "how many good steel coasters has Werner Stengel NOT been involved with"....I believe he's at least an engineering consultant (credited or not) on virtually everything B&M *or* Intamin touches these days.


He's the reason for the "striking similarities", IMO.

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Friday, June 9, 2006 1:37 PM
All the Giovanola coasters look remarkably similar to B&M coasters because B&M used to work for Giovanola.
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Friday, June 9, 2006 3:11 PM
Looks fun. You have to work to get on this thing. Obviously it doesn't have the reliabilty of a B&M.

http://www.rcdb.com/ig1169.htm?picture=16 *** Edited 6/9/2006 7:11:41 PM UTC by gomez***

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Friday, June 9, 2006 3:11 PM
Anaconda is an exception in that respect as it is obviously non-B&M (or is it actually B&M as long as they were still working for Giovanola?)
Giovanola continued to work on B&M rides anyway, mainly producing the tracks.
In some ways, therefore, B&M smooth has always been Giovanola smooth also (see the Goliaths in SFMM and SFoT).

There is also another non-B&M - B&M-type invert, that even features a 4-across seating next to the typical elements and the box-beam track -
it's called Eurostar and travels the German fair circuit.
But that's another story.

Intamin, Giovanola, Schwarzkopf, Stengel, B&M, Gerstlauer and some others, are all connected in one or the other way or work/ed for each other .. etc.

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Friday, June 9, 2006 6:56 PM
Now that you mention it, giovanola looks like B&M as well.
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Friday, June 9, 2006 8:58 PM
^Of course they do, they use the same track.
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