In regards to line jumpers....

Monday, June 24, 2002 7:04 PM

When you are in line, and a group of people try to pass you, what is your response/reaction?

Just curious.

Our stance (the wife and I), is we like to challenge people who come from behind, and encourage other guests to challenge them as well as to why they don't understand the rules posted about line jumping.

It has led to some confrontations in the past, but no harm was ever done, and I rather got a kick out of watching them blow their cool trying to explain why they should pass, with a long line of patrons looking on with interest.

Monday, June 24, 2002 7:08 PM
Yeah, I like it when you embarass somebody trying to line jump, and then they get to walk to the back of the line. It also stops anyone who saw the jumpers from jumping themselves.

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Monday, June 24, 2002 7:31 PM
On one trip to SFWOA this summer we were walking through the cues of X-Flight, which was basically a "walk on" that day.

Anyway, this one girl climbs under the cues to jump in line in front of us. Feeling no threat of having one person cut in front of us on a walk-on we started joking with her. "Line jumper, Line Jumper" we started yelling jokingly.

I kid you not, the line attendent almost chased her down and asked us if we wanted the girl removed from the line. Of course we said no, the ride was a walk-on.

It was funny that something was done in this situation but is not done when the cues are full and groups try to cut.

Here is a question though. On X-flight, there is a section where the cue line splits to the second station. when they are running both sides most people tend to gravitate toward the nearest station and wait in that line. Quite often there is a much shorter line or a walk on in the second station area. Is is "LIne jumping" to go to the second station while there are many others waiting for the first? People seem afraid to try that other path. Just curious what you guys think.
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Monday, June 24, 2002 7:36 PM
James K...I'd say going to the shorter line for the other station is the smart thing to do, not line jumping at all!

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Monday, June 24, 2002 7:49 PM

According to Webster's unofficial coaster dictionary, line jumping is when you bypass people waiting in a single queue....once it splits, it's capitalism all over again. If you find a shorter line in 4-2 than in 3-3, that's not line jumping, is it? just my opinion.....but then again, I am a firm believer in single-rider lines.....

As far as "real" line jumping, it seems many parks decide to only enforce the rules when a patron complains about it....sometimes I'll confront them, other times not.....Two instances that really get me ticked: 1) the adults that hold places so their kids can "catch up", teaching them exactly the wrong thing to do, and 2) the teens waving for their friends to "come join us at the front of the line". These are the people I am most likely to confront, and generally the "adults"(?) are the ones likely to argue about it....age and wisdom don't always go together I guess....

Monday, June 24, 2002 7:57 PM
I just kinda look around and gesture to the crowd and say loudly "Would anyone else like to get in front of me?? Anyone???" It usually gets a few chuckles and a few people commiseratingly shaking their heads.
Monday, June 24, 2002 8:01 PM

I should mention also in our defense that we usually size up the situation before we go spouting off. If some little kid came up and decided he/she wanted to ride with his/her big bro/sis after all, hey, go for it lil dude/dudette. But I can't stand the little snotty nosed brats that seem to live at most parks, and insist on snaking their way up the line over and over again! Rarrggh!

In terms of queue selection, it does seem to follow an inverse of Pascal's triangle...or does it? :-)

*** This post was edited by Gruelurks on 6/25/2002. ***

Monday, June 24, 2002 8:13 PM
Haha, at Great Adventure recently, I used the physical block method on a bunch of hoodlems trying to jump underneath the rails in the Medusa queue! A couple got in then this one clown was about go slip under so I shifted over and he got his teeth slammed right into my back! :) I think about 3 got in and then like 6 others turned away after they saw me and someone else in front of me weren't going to have it. :)

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Monday, June 24, 2002 8:15 PM
Hey i take a stand. Some bung hole wants to line jump me they'll see my arms across the handrails and me red in the face going nope back of the line. That is shortly followed by a yell to security. Line jumpers should be ejected from the park PERIOD. No first offenses there are signs all around saying NO LINE JUMPING. In my opinion they should be shot on sight. But that is just me. To all of the coaster enthusiasts out there take a stand fight for your right and take down as many line jumpers as you can!

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*** This post was edited by Sean C on 6/25/2002. ***

Monday, June 24, 2002 8:21 PM

My story of Heroisim is when I was in line for Deja Vu at Great America. I was waiting in line for about 1 hour and a half when 6 no talent but goblins came up through the supposed "FAST LANE LINE" and by passed the entire set of corrals. I was just exiting the corals and saw this. I immediatley Got infront of them and because I'm a Big guy I didn't move a inch. They were whinning and complaining until a security officer saw what was happening and collected the hoodlums. The moral of the story, stick up for your self and the next time someone says excuse me coming through lock onto the silver rail and say NO, I will not go silently into the back of this line. You take your group and go to that little end area back there because your not getting by!!!!!

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Monday, June 24, 2002 8:24 PM
Remember when Marriott's had the life guard chairs and people actually sat in them to watch for the line jumpers? I miss those

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Monday, June 24, 2002 8:29 PM
SFGAdv has lifeguard chairs by the coasters queue. They cought some linejumpers in the Nitro queue. It was pretty fnny.

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Monday, June 24, 2002 8:37 PM

"I say something like,"Ohh no..You're not cutting in front of ME! End of the line, pal!" If that doesn't work I lock myself into position.

I notice the people who are useing the drink machines and let them get back where they where if nessessary.

It's a difficult perdiciment when I try to get the attention of security. If I know where the offecers are but am not within vocal distance from them, I sometimes debate leaveing my place in line to find them and let them know what's going on. But then I end up being a line jumper because I want to get back where I was in line.

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Monday, June 24, 2002 8:47 PM
I used to take a strong stand, but I got sick of it, I'd always have the support of everyone around me, but it was just a pain in the backside. Lately everyone in my party and I will just stare down the person, no matter what size, sex, race, age, etc. we'll just stare at the person with dirty looks, and if they say anything about it we explain to them what they're doing and how it's against park policy and just making everyone else wait longer for a ride when they've actually been standing in line the whole time and not having someone else stand in line for them while they got done whatever they had to get done. Today at SFGAm it was REALLY bad for such short coaster lines, and at one point, we had a few from our party that were in line, and others were going to join in on the line later and just ride a little later, but instead we noticed that people who had cut in front of us earlier were right behind us, and the only people behind us so far, so they just joined right in with us.

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Monday, June 24, 2002 8:56 PM
I tend to have a problem with anyone who feels they are too good to follow the rules. These are the type of people who have no respect for others and believe the world owes them something. Any time it happens I stand up for myself and those around me. I am a large guy with horrible posture so my size can be deceiving. If a situation arises, I just straighten up and span the entire queue. No one attempts to pass when they see the size of the obstacle.
Monday, June 24, 2002 9:01 PM

LOL what stories i have of line jumping. People seem to take it for granted that they can just hold a spot and let their friends catch up. I normally dont say anything about it, but it does annoy me. I usually do have someone in the group who speaks up about it.

One of my funniest experiences was in the disaster transport queue when this girl comes running past me and up a little bit in the queue. I thought, well shes running to her mother or something and it isnt too bad. The rudeness of her pushing by wasnt too great. Then, to my surprise, she calls back to her friend and tells her to run up to her in the line. Say what? All this girl did was run up to help gain a better spot in line. Needless to say, two people in my group completely blocked the path for the girl to move up and her friend sulkingly made her way back behind us to her.

According to someone i was with, the two girls were behind us continuely plotting on how they could get past us. I personally thought this whole thing was hilarious. Unfortunately, I wasnt happy when they called for two riders and they rode before our group anyway. Oh well, maybe they wont get their way next time.

*** This post was edited by duelingdragonsrok11 on 6/25/2002. ***

Monday, June 24, 2002 9:11 PM

Whenever I am Operating Mind Eraser at SFEG, I can see a large portion of the queue line where people usually cut through the rocks. If I see them, I make a mental note, and when they get up to the gates, I give them two options.

1. They quietly pass through the train when I open the gates, go down the entrance, wait in line correctly, and enjoy the rest of their day at the park.

2. I call security, hold up the line for 10 minutes waiting, and then have them kicked out of the park.

Needless to say, they usually pick the first option. Not only does this let me enforce the rules, but it also lets the guests see that we do our best to stop line cutters and am therefore showing that we care about the customers. Sure we don't catch all of them, but we do try.

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*** This post was edited by Mustang on 6/25/2002. ***

Monday, June 24, 2002 10:33 PM
I have seen Medusa at SFMW closed while a couple of Ops go and hunt down people they saw line jumping. Whenever someone tries to cut in front of me, I basically tell them no way or tell a Ride-Op (depending on the situation) and it always works.


Monday, June 24, 2002 10:44 PM
I just stand there and make them push through me. Then I threaten to call security on my phone.

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Monday, June 24, 2002 11:02 PM
Usually I'll let a little kid who had to go to the bathroom pass freely. Bot i always tell a ride op if a bunch of preteens are passing. at knott's, the operators will seriously stop and LECTURE the kids why not to line jump. i've seen them make some kids cry.

calling park security on a phone is a good way to do it w/o getting out of line. you can even fake talking to one of them.


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