"I'll take Holiday World for $600, Alex"

^LMAO, Paula and Matt.

I'm left a little stunned at the "been to HW, not ridden the woodies" comment.

Hopefully this will be taken in the way it's intended...but without the woodies, HW is kinda lacking in the THRILLS department. Don't get me wrong, the friendliness, cleanliness, and everything else is very important (more than could be quantified without the help of Freakonomics, LOL). But the *thrill aspect* is very much tied to the wooden coasters, and without them I could see how someone might find the "rides park"...somewhat lacking.

Of course, for '08, Pat K. gets her carousel, and I get my KMG Afterburner... LOL! ;)

P.S. Paula, saw the recent Parkworld article, VERY cool indeed. Always nice to have our "crackpot theories" confirmed... :)

I think someone who has read Freakonomics would know it takes more than the single correlation made in that article to explain the numbers.

I'd go with plausable...definitely not confirmed.

(Freakonomics, HW and a Mythbusters reference in one post! I've exceeded the recommended daily amount of pleasure. ;) )

coasterimage - lordgonchar

^You are teh hottttt! ;)

If you'd have managed a "Blink" reference in there too, it might have been TOO much to handle...LOL! But there were LOTS of numbers for me to pore over in the Parkworld article - the one that JUMPED out at me was the food per-caps going UP...

*** Edited 2/13/2007 9:41:34 PM UTC by rollergator***

Percieved value is everything. Whats the matter Gonch? Still not willing to admitt your being wrong?

CP, Paramount and others have gained what? 10-15 percent attendance in that time frame while HW, Compounce and others have doubled attendance?

Sure waterparks and other smart decisions make or break a park. But I don't see how all these money making schemes Fast Pass, No re-entry Gold bot, Pay extras ect have improved the bottom line. Expecially at SF.

A satisfied customer comes back and comes back far more often than someones who's felt ripped off or recieved bad service.

If I visit a restaraunt for the first time and have bad service or bad food. Do I go back? You could comp me all you want. I probably won't

Chuck *** Edited 2/13/2007 9:44:32 PM UTC by Charles Nungester***

Whats the matter Gonch? Still not willing to admitt your being wrong?

I will when I am. :)

coasterimage - lordgonchar

Charles Nungester said:
CP, Paramount and others have gained what? 10-15 percent attendance in that time frame while HW, Compounce and others have doubled attendance?

I'm sure when Holiday World grows to the size of CP/PKI their attendance will plateau as well.

delan said:
I'm sure when Holiday World grows to the size of CP/PKI [...]

Let's work on getting a real steel coaster at HW first.

Welcome back, red train, how was your ride?!

Why would a coaster enthusiast go to HW and not ride their woodies? Did you go before Raven was built? If so, I can understand your confusion. HW as a park is nice, but it is all about the woodies. The Voyage by itself is better than most other parks, let alone coasters.

I doubt that HW will ever reach that level. First, I do not believe that the Kochs would want a park that lacks the parsonal touches that HW has because it is too big. Second, there aren't enough hotel rooms in the area to accommodate large numbers of visitors from outside daytrip range. I could see 2 million visitors a year someday but I would not expect it to go much beyond that.

As for LC, I see big things in this park's future. They should be doing more to capitalize on SFNEs shortcomings. First there is the waterpark expansion then there should be some new coasters and flats and maybe another darkride. This park is in a great location to draw big attendance once they expand enough and it has such a beautiful setting. It could be a 1.5 to 2 million a year park sometime in the next decade. KWE is cautious enough, however, not to overextend itself either financially or in ways that risk harming the park's character.

Arthur Bahl

delan said:
Charles Nungester said:
CP, Paramount and others have gained what? 10-15 percent attendance in that time frame while HW, Compounce and others have doubled attendance?
I'm sure when Holiday World grows to the size of CP/PKI their attendance will plateau as well.

Only half true as I see it.

Maybe I should change "when" to "if".

Spoiler available here: http://www.holidayworld.com/holiblog/2007/02/what-isthanksgiving.html

(For some reason, Jeopardy is a mid-afternoon show in our market.)

Paula

HoliWood Nights flyer: www.holidayworld.com/clubs

Paula Werne
Holiday World

Hehe, what do I win for guessing the correct..."answer"? Question? Whichever....

SFoGswim said:
Let's work on getting a real steel coaster at HW first.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

/darth vader

What is Arbor Day?

"I go out at 3 o' clock for a quart of milk and come home to my son treating his body like an amusement park!" - Estelle Costanza

Damn, I guessed "What is Groundhog day?"

See? This is why Jeopardy makes no sense. If someone asked you, "What is Thanksgiving?" the answer would not be, "Get away to Holiday World in Indiana to ride the Gobbler Getaway in the area named for this holiday." Unless the question was specific to Gobbler Getaway, any answer to "What is Thanksgiving?" MUST include a reference to The Voyage. After all, that is what we have to be thankful for, isn't it?

All the questions/answers were kind of dumb if you ask me, they could have made them tougher

Oh crap I missed the show. :)