I-305 Single Rider Line is Gone

Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:35 AM

As the title of the thread would suggest, the I-305 single rider line is no longer. I was there this past weekend and not only wasn't it being used. But, they actually modified the queue. Before there were 3 paths.

Queue 1: Main (On the right)

Queue 2: Single rider (In the middle)

Queue 3: Handicap (On the left)

Queue 2's entrance is now closed. Then about 90% of the way through queue 1, they cut the queue so that riders are diverted to the left into queue 2. Riders for the front row are told to continue to the right through the original queue 1 path. I rode 3 times Saturday. All three waits were a full queue, 2 train operation, and took about 30 minutes to traverse. During all three waits in line, I saw people get out of the front row line (After having waited there for a while) and climb under the rail back into the standard line. I saw no arguments from anyone about line jumping. They obviously had waited longer than anyone else they were sliding next to. There is so much room for front row riders now that I think it probably easily adds 30 minutes to your wait. Even with good operations.

When I asked why they got rid of the single rider line, they said that it would fill up and people were complaining about the wait being longer than the standard line.

On a separate note, I did see several separate cases of line jumping. All of which were called out by the line op, security or both. Of course in each instance they all had excuses. All of which fell on deaf ears.

Last edited by Jason Hammond, Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:41 AM
Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:41 AM

Jason Hammond said:

On a separate not, I did see several separate cases of line jumping. All of which were called out by the line op, security or both. Of course in each instance they all had excuses. All of which fell on deaf ears.

I wish other parks would keep an eye on their lines, the amount of people who think nothing of moving through 15/20 minutes worth of queue.

I do get the point about the single rider line being long - rides with a dedicated line sometimes end up that you're waiting forever as people using it as a quick way onto the ride - but with this culture it fast becomes a useless facility for true single riders.

Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:10 PM

While I was only there opening weekend, they had no idea how to use a single rider line. They would send odd number groups out and not send a single rider. Then when the single rider line got long, they sent pairs from the SRL. It was the biggest cluster.

If they never figured it out, this would be a reason for removing the SRL. KI had some issues with it in the beginning. They tried having SRL cards and finally gave up and just leave the SRL line open.

Tuesday, August 17, 2010 3:24 PM

I think most parks could take a lesson from Disney on how to use the single rider line. They don't care if groups use it (knowing they will be split up most of the time) and it still manages to move fast. Fahrenheit at Hershey had the single rider line closed both times I was there in 2008 and 2009 and I was told on another site it was closed due to people complaining about it not being fair. I also remember reading a while ago that is why the single rider line on Behemoth is no longer being used.

When I see a train going out with as many as 10 or more empty seats, it is kind of annoying knowing that they could be filling up those seats if they had a single rider line that works.

Tuesday, August 17, 2010 5:12 PM

My observation is that single rider lines really only work if seating is assigned. If seating is not assigned, then there is no mechanism in place for identifying the necessary singles that make the single rider line worthwhile. It becomes easier to just attempt to group people from the random crush of people coming up the ramp.

Basically, choose which you prefer: Do you want to pick your seat, or do you want a single rider line? Because from a practical standpoint, you really can't have it both ways.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Tuesday, August 17, 2010 5:49 PM

At Rock'it, they simply close the SR line once it reaches/exceeds the length of the regular line...

Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:32 PM

@ Dave^

With Nemesis, at Alton Towers. The SRQ is on the opposite side of the train to the air gates, so when the train is loaded the ops then take guests from the SRQ and put them into the train - works well.

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:41 AM

Blast! Now what incentive is there for me to have no friends? ;)

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:22 AM

Ha! Yeah, they are determined to kill every perk we lonely people have. Dammit! ;)

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:17 AM

Happiness is achieved when you learn the difference between being lonely and being alone.

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:28 AM

Thank you, Confucius.

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:33 AM

So if someone is lonely, they should be happy as long as they know the difference?

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 10:23 AM

I am alone. But, I am not lonely. I spend enough time with my family and friends to cherish the fact that I am alone. :)

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 10:37 AM

I am alone. But, I am not lonely.

Same here. I'm actually more alone now that I'm in NC because I have no immediate family closer than 4 hours, and all of my friends are away, but, then, I'm a social butterfly so I've met tons of people here. Which is fine, but I actually like being alone for a lot of things.

It has been nice, though, knowing so many other coaster geeks that have come to Carowinds that I've been able to hang out with this year.

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 10:54 AM

You all saw the winky face in my post, right? Just to be clear, I am not actually a lonely person.

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 11:47 AM

Nice turn for the topic. HAHA

I love being alone. I have my family and friends to hang out with, but I limit time spent with them on purpose. Being with people all day, every day, distracts me from dwelling on how alone I am, if that makes any sense.

My MySpace screen name is Travis (is a loner). The fact that I admit to being a loner should allow people to better understand me.

I have recently discovered, within the last few years, that going to parks alone isn't as much fun as it used to be though. I usually try to find someone to go with me.

Until recently, I've been the type of guy who everyone wanted to hang out with. I always thought it was odd that so many people looked up to me.

To keep it on topic, even when I am with people at a park, we sometimes decide to do a single rider line. Sure, we'll be split up, but if we've already rode the ride together once or more, it's no biggie.

EDIT - added the word "how" to better make sense. lol

Last edited by LostKause, Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:17 AM
Wednesday, August 18, 2010 11:58 AM

I'm deep and introspective. And broody. I brood a lot. Almost as much as that chick from Twilight, so you can imagine how irritating I can be.

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:27 PM

A rare, actual audible laugh while reading CoasterBuzz, courtesy of Vater. :)

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:36 PM

Vater needs a bran muffin, stat!

Wednesday, August 18, 2010 1:06 PM

No, he said he was irritating, not irregular. :)


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