Hyper Coasters

Monday, October 9, 2000 1:25 PM
Okay this was talked about before but was never resolved. What makes a hyper coaster. Last time I read it said a coaster with a first hill of 200ft or more. Others said the drop had to be 200 ft. If the drop has to be 200ft+ then that means the first hyper coaster (Magnum) isn't a hyper coaster. But if it has to be a height off 200ft then Phantom's Revenge isn't a hyper either. So which is it?

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Number 1 And Only Cedar Point
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Monday, October 9, 2000 1:31 PM
I think if it has a 200ft lift or drop or both its a hyper.
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Monday, October 9, 2000 2:23 PM
Heres my opinion:

HYPERCOASTER: Usually steel, non-looping, in most cases above 200 feet (Steel Eel is not 200 feet but I consider it a hyper), has plenty of airtime.

HYPER-LOOPER: Above 200 foot drop or lift, over the shoulder restraints, and inversions.
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Monday, October 9, 2000 2:48 PM
Magnum is a hyper because the hight of the lift hill is over 200ft, so its considered a hyper coaster.

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Magnum-Just Ride It!!!
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Monday, October 9, 2000 3:29 PM
I agree with StarCoasters, execpt on the Steel Eel, that IS NOT a Hyper coaster.

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Only A Few More Weeks To Go Full Force. At The One and Only Cedar Point.
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Monday, October 9, 2000 5:00 PM
a hypercoaster has no loops, cause then we wouldnt have hyperloopers, as for MF, im not touching that with aten foot pole
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Monday, October 9, 2000 5:23 PM
I think we should, I mean this is a descusion group so lets talk about the Force of the Millennium. Is a hyper coaster, a coaster that is 200ft-299.99ft?

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Number 1 And Only Cedar Point
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Monday, October 9, 2000 6:16 PM
Jephry, you're right, this is a discussion group so lets talk about it.
Millennium Force IS a hyper IMO. The only place it says it's a "Giga" coaster is on that little plaque on the sides of the trains. From what I hear, Steel Dragon does not claim to be a "Giga" so 300 feet doesnt really mean a thing.
A Hypercoaster is a coaster with either a 200 foot high lift hill OR a 200 foot drop, that does not have any inversions. Hyperloopers are the same just with inversions.

That's my take
-ED
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Monday, October 9, 2000 6:37 PM
I'd say a hyper is any coaster with either a 200+ foot drop or lift hill. Doesn't matter if it has inversions or not, because that would just be putt in a more specific hyper category.
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Monday, October 9, 2000 6:45 PM
I'd say any coaster between 0 and however high you want to build it regardless of height and weight and style and degree and color is still a roller coaster. The only reason a 200 ft coaster is called a hyper is because thats what Arrow wanted to call it.

Millenium Force - Roller Coaster
Magnum - Roller Coaster
Jr. Gemini - Roller Coaster

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LONG LIVE ARROW DYNAMICS!!
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Monday, October 9, 2000 7:38 PM
I think, for at least ease of making a point or categorization...
1-99 foot = coaster
100-199 foot = mega-coaster
200-299 foot = hyper-coaster
300-399 foot = giga-coaster

The terms do not imply a specific layout. For example, a coaster does not have to be an out and back to be considered a hyper. I think we all agree that Goliath is not an out and back, but it is a hyper. I also think that usage of "giga" is just an easy way to let everyone know 300 foot or higher.

Besides, terms can be subjective. I hate it when someone jumps down my throat when I get a term confused with their definition of that term. Just chill out and have fun.

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Gotta ride 'em all!
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Monday, October 9, 2000 8:12 PM
Several of you figured it out... it's all marketing nonsense partially adopted by the enthusiast community. Hyper is a term invented by Arrow or Cedar Point (not sure who) to describe a coaster over 200 feet. Giga, a stupid name and prefix that has absolutely nothing to do with its real meaning, is something invented by Intamin, who calls their other coasters (the closed-circuit Supermen) megacoasters, an equally stupid, though more generally accepted, use of a prefix.

The truth is, there are so many variations of different coaster forms, that's it's getting harder and harder to try and pigeonhole them as one thing or another. So why bother?

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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
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Monday, October 9, 2000 8:29 PM
So why doesn't the coaster community agree on a standard for naming types of coasters.

Oh wait, agree on something?? My bad, forget that. ;)
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Monday, October 9, 2000 11:11 PM
I agree Jeff. Been saying that all along, once you have hypercoaster, that pretty much covers all very fast coasters.

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Simcoaster awards 2000!

Best Steel:
1)Superman-SFNE
2)Goliath-SFMM

Best wood:
1)The Legend
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Monday, October 9, 2000 11:22 PM
So maybe hypercoasters should be classified by thier speed instead of height. Lets say 70mph or faster.

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"DONT FIGHT IT, RIDE IT",,,,RAGING BULL
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Tuesday, October 10, 2000 5:59 AM
I think the term is a good thing because you know that the coaster is 200ft or more. It is a term that has been circulated through the Roller coaster Enthusiast and is used. Giga (which is a dumb name but its growing on me) I don't know if it is that popular. I think because 300ft is so big it needs a catagory in its self.

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Number 1 And Only Cedar Point
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Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:53 AM
A roller coaster that rides hyper is a hyper , regardless of height .
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Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:14 PM

I will agree with Soggy completely. Took the words right out of my mouth. As for giga, it too, like hyper, are just industry produced terms to classify rollercoasters at every 100ft that they top. They are rediculous, and do not accually mean 200ft or 300ft, but they are accepted, because that's what they started out being called, and that's how they remained.

P.S. When did it matter about loops? I never knew that?!?

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Rollercoasters: They're not a hobby, they're not an interest, they're an ADDICTION!
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Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:12 PM
Mabye, coasters are put into catagories,
A coaster with a lift hill or a drop of 200feet or more but less than 300, is a hyper coaster,
A coaster with a lift or a drop of 300feet or more is a giga coaster.


Theres my 2 cents.
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Magnum-Just Ride It!!!
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Thursday, October 12, 2000 1:13 PM
Iron Dragon is right. And hypers/gigas cant go upside-down.
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Top 3:
1. Millenium Force
2. Raptor
3. Batman: the Ride
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