how to build a 420' coaster?

Will they have to use a tower crane?

After reviewing Cp's Map AGAIN, I still don't understand how they could POSSIBLY fit a coaster that big ANYwhere in that park. It seems to me that park is filled to the brim! But then I guess it's not impossible.

Here's a question that challenges yours, if the 400' cranes are tough to find, then what was used to piece together High Roller over 1,000 ft high? That question has always left me "stumped."

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The Heide Park Tera coaster was cancelled. How they built High Roller on top of the Stratosphere, is they had a tower crane on the top, where the antenna is reaching over the edge, bringing the piece up. The tower crane was only 100ft tall, but since it was where the antenna was it had a perfect spot and could reach any part of the tower. Cedar Point has plenty of room for a huge coaster.

SFGAMDie HARD said:
"After reviewing Cp's Map AGAIN, I still don't understand how they could POSSIBLY fit a coaster that big ANYwhere in that park. It seems to me that park is filled to the brim!

The CP cheerleading squad will be very quick to refute that.

Wasn't the top peice of MF put in by a helicopter. I am not completely sure but I think they did.

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No, the top piece wasn't put there by helicopter, although the video for the "topping off" is shot from a helicopter and the helicopter noise is prevalent, the crane was used to place it.

-seth

What's up with the mods deleting the funny posts?
It's not like they were that bad. I think it would be cool to ride a 420' coaster on 4/20 at 4:20!

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LMAO, helicopters! Now *that's* comedy!

Are you aware that just about every major ski lift built in recent years has had its towers placed by a helicopter? There is no comedy here, helicopters are great for construction when the conditions call for their use. I have no clue what CP would use, but a helicopter would do a fine job, and may be less expensive than a super tall crane.

Ok, so lets say they do have room. But geez, people complain about parks like HW that have two completely different wood coasters that they claim they are "practically the same." And two Intamin hyper coasters that are 120' in height difference seems boring and uncreative to me. I mean yeah it would be cool to have CP claim the tallest coaster once again, but height certainly is FAR from everything! Cornball has taught us that. And it seems to me that SROS at SFNE is overwhelmingly preferred to MF, yet it is considerably shorter in height and length.

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Helicopters are utilized by ski lifts because of the remote areas (you know, mountains) where they are located. It's pretty hard to drag pieces of a tower and a crane up a slope.

Using helicopters is impractical and expensive. They are subject to even the most minute changes in weather and are slow. Cranes are cheap, reliable, and CAN reach any height you want to build.

For the purpose of building a roller coaster, helicopters are a terrible choice. A tower crane will do just fine. I wonder why this is even debated since we have much larger structures much higher than some random coaster, and cranes got the job done pretty well.

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Dude, they're not going to use helicopters to build whatever it is they're building. Hence the "Now THAT'S comedy!" comment from myself.

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*** This post was edited by Legendary on 8/20/2002. ***

Big, big difference between using copters to place ski lift towers and for coaster construction. First and foremost, when a ski lift is built, even a really long one, there are only 25 or so towers to set including the upper and lower terminals. Most lifts will have 15 or less towers to set. A copter can get to these relatively remote regions and set the entire lift line in generally less than a day at a cost of about $10,000 for that day of work. To build a coaster and set all the pieces of supports/track would take alot more than a day, and end up driving up the cost of construction. For something like coaster construction its much more economically feasible to use cranes.

Helicopters make lousy cranes. You only use them for jobs like ski lifts where you can't get a real crane to the location. They also occasionally get used for very light lifts such as HVAC units where there is a long horizontal reach. (Again, you can't get the crane there.) They can't be used in anything more than a very light wind. They are expensive and disruptive. (Every body on the job stops to watch during the whole lifting operation.) In my 30 years of construction, I've never gotten desperate enough to have to use one.

Believe me, if you build a 420' coaster, you will use a real crane unless it's a terrain coaster on some serious terrain.

Where my posts removed from this thread?

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Jeez! Same question here! I know i made a silly remark, but it wasn't offensive in any way. Which upset child couldn't see through that?

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When did this turn into a helicopter post, he was really just straining his brain to think of an idea other than a crane, get back on the topic.

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Elijah Rock.
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Yeah people get back on topic!
We were talking about 420...

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