How Much Will Energy Prices Effect you and the Parks?

The *economies of scale* from flying come from the fact that airlines try not to fly planes with one or two passengers...;)

Not even the most *clowny* Volkswagen can hold as many people as that 777 I flew into LA on....that thing was HUGE! If every one of those people had DRIVEN from Orlando to LAX in separate vehicles, the fuel consumption would be MASSIVE...

'gator: you should read that article. The comparison is based on fuel-per-passenger, assuming a fully-loaded plane vs. a car with three pasengers. I've only skimmed it, so I don't know their assumptions (for example, I'm guessing takeoff is a disproportionate fuel consumer, so longer flights should perform better on a fuel-per-passenger metric). One interesting result is that larger planes are not always more per-passenger efficient.

(Of course, in the US, three passengers is two too many, but that's a different question.)

But Brian, your last line was *exactly* what I was getting at....in the US, nobody really carpools....OK, I do, but I'm weird as ****. The carpool lanes in LA had their *stoppages*, but the other lanes on the freeways OFTENTIMES resembled a parking lot. One driver, one car, *that* is the American way! ;)

Enough, I'll go read the article now....:)

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Brian Noble said:
And, you can pry first class/business class seats out of my cold, dead, NWA-elite-status-holding hand. I'm not *that* liberal. :)

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Substitute US (and Star Alliance) for NWA, and you have me. Which is what I was getting at. :)

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RatherGoodBear said:
... But am I the only one who thinks there's something not right with someone who flies a private plane (that presumably consumes oil and I'm sure makes noise) to a pristine natural site so he can showboat and talk about how proposed plans to drill for oil will upset the environment

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Sure something's not right with that, but how does that make my arguments about saving it for a rainy day or push for more alternatives any less valid? Sounds more like indignity than argument.

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Ride Man, glad you could answer that. It's amazing how many people have this disconnect (no pun intended) between how the energy they use in their homes, workplaces, stores, etc. is generated. I seriously believe they think it's stored up in the wall behind the outlet, or random electrons are sucked out of the sky. I burn coal in my own house. I'm sure that gives some people seizures.

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Not sure where you meet these folks, but I don't think I've met someone under the age of 16 who's not aware of this. But I understand your frustration with the general populace...look who we elected. ;)

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I still believe that too many people that they can just keep living their lifestyle as they do now, and things would just be alright if other people, or businesses, or whatever would cut back.

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I'm not sure if you disagree with the overall problem, or if you agree that there is a problem and simply have a problem with people who see the problem and do nothing about it (in which case I would agree with you).

Sorry for the rant, just seems like a lot of finger pointing.