how come no more spaghetti bowls?

Monday, April 14, 2003 12:36 PM
I've never ridden one myself, but I always thought they could be like the next Boomerang, a simple clone any park could put in for the enjoyment of the general public and enthusiasts alike. They don't require all that much land, and in my opinion, look rather stunning.

Maybe not just spaghetti bowls, but other launched Premiers like Speed or The Chiller would make good clones for smaller parks. I've only ridden Speed, and thought it was one hell of a ride.

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Monday, April 14, 2003 12:55 PM
launch coasters tend to be unreliable and expensive in most cases (LIMs dont come cheap)

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Monday, April 14, 2003 1:13 PM
Well a "spaghetti bowl" opened this past year at Disney Studios Paris - they aren't completely extinct yet.
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Monday, April 14, 2003 1:25 PM
I heard the parks don't like to clean up all that messy marinara ;)

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Monday, April 14, 2003 1:33 PM
So, I'm picturing Bass in a segment called 'Marinara Madness' in Road to Nowhere 3.

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Monday, April 14, 2003 1:42 PM
I think it's just that parks haven't explored the theming options for this coaster...the trains could be shaped like big slices of garlic bread and riders could wear 3-D glasses so they felt like they were swimming in marinara-or in Mooshie's case, meat sauce ;) Does EPCOT have an Italy section?

I tried to pay attention to 'Gator's lesson on theming at IOA...but I may be way off track.

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Monday, April 14, 2003 1:46 PM
Does Xcelerator qualify as a spaghetti bowl, but with only three noodles, and no sauce? ;)

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Monday, April 14, 2003 1:49 PM
Aww... everyone is mocking me now. I thought that was the common terminology. What are they called then?
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Monday, April 14, 2003 1:51 PM
"Chris, I dropped my garlic breeeeaaaadddddd...."

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Monday, April 14, 2003 1:51 PM
I guess a toboggan would be a piece of rotini.

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Monday, April 14, 2003 2:21 PM
BassHedz, there was nothing wrong with your terminology. It's just that your question has been adressed, and now the fabled CBPG wants to have a little fun with the words. My advice is to just laugh at whatever they come up with... And if you're not satisfied with your current answer, then cleverly sneak the question into an appropriate thread elsewhere (possibly after some time). Also, you might want to do a search, 'cause I know we've at least touched on this subject before.

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Monday, April 14, 2003 2:36 PM
i guess a spaghetti plate won't work, it'd just be flat:S

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Monday, April 14, 2003 3:01 PM

laurence said:
launch coasters tend to be unreliable and expensive in most cases (LIMs dont come cheap)

According to who?

The answer is simple. No parks have ordered any.

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Monday, April 14, 2003 3:33 PM
If there's going to be a launched clone sprouting like boomerangs, my money would be on the impulses. Decent capacity, decent price, tiny footprint, great ride.

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Monday, April 14, 2003 4:28 PM

(SF)Great American said:
now the fabled CBPG wants to have a little fun with the words. My advice is to just laugh at whatever they come up with

(SF)Great American gives out solid advice. Even beyond the piece I quoted. ;) No harm meant BassHedz....now, BaSSiStiSt, on the other hand... ;)

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Monday, April 14, 2003 6:21 PM
Why, thank you, UpsideDawnGirl. One of the first things I learned on C-Buzz was that sometimes, you've just got tosit back and let the Peanut Gallery do its thing.

However, since our esteemed Webmaster seems to be steering the thread back to the original topic... I seem to recall hearing that the impulses were (and are) considerably more expensive than your standard Vekoma Boomerang. That being the case, I would assume that Spaghetti Bowls are even more expensive than that, somewhat prohibitting them from popping up like boomerangs. Unforunately, I can't seem to find that info right now... I'll get back to you.

They are expensive to run. We're talking enough power to launch a several ton vehicle at highway speeds hundreds of times daily. That eats up a lot of fuel for those generators they have on-site, which are there in the first place to prevent a power shortage in the rest of the park everytime the thing launches.

However, I don't think they deserve the unreliable lable. Wicked Twister and the Freezes have some structural problems, but that doesn't mean that LIM technology is bad. I know from experience that V2 at SFGAm is quite reliable, and I haven't heard anything to the contrary about the Spaghetti Bowls, either Vekoma or Premier.

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Monday, April 14, 2003 6:25 PM
Well its just rumor at this point, but it sounds like Universal has ordered a Premier or two for USH and USF.

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Monday, April 14, 2003 6:44 PM
Lemme know if I'm wrong, but aren't the Flight of Fears LIM, Premier, Spaghettii Bowls?! The one at Kings Dominion is rarely down, and its always running two trains, even when they could get away with one.

The last time I remember it being down was when Hypersonic opened, they were still doing the lapbar redoing. And once it was running one train, and that was also during the lapbar redoing.

Seems pretty reliable to me. I think Six Flags are the ones that have the problems, but that should be no surprise. Joker's Jinx is closed alot, or running off and on. Its either Six Flags plague or the fact that its outside. But, I enjoyed JJ more than FoF.

I'd love to see more Spaghettii bowls, but with different track layouts, but I don't want it at Kings Dominion. No more Launches for that park. I think the ones outside are more fun because of the headchoppers.

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Monday, April 14, 2003 7:29 PM
I can't remember any time in recent memory that I've been to PKI and not been able to ride Flight of Fear. Once they got their structural issues handled, I was never denied a ride on Wicked Twister either. If you have some hard data to backup the claim, please share it.

And generators don't power launched coasters. What's that about? The electric company powers launched coasters, which in turn use coal or nuclear plants to make your night light glow and launch coasters.

And how many of you get the electric bill from the parks? I'm just curious how every one "knows" they're more expensive.

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Monday, April 14, 2003 7:44 PM
If you'll read my post a tad more carefully, you'll see I'm agreeing with you on reliablility. Everything I've seen indicates that LIM coasters are quite reliable.

I know I've read that Disney has an independant power source for Rock'N'Roller Coaster. Maybe they're the only one. I guess I should say: Disney, at least, thinks they eat up enough power that they decided to put in generators so that the whole park doesn't brown out when the thing launches (there was espcially concern that this could happen if RRC and Tower of Terror went at the same time). Since I know at least one other park installed generators for a similair, though different, launch system, it seemed reasonable to assume other parks would do the same for their LIMs. But I shouldn't assume, so there are the facts, as I've heard them.

As for initial cost, I rmemeber another thread, many months ago, where prices were quoted for the impulses. Maybe I'm suffering from some kind of delusion, but I doubt it. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find the thread, or any prices anywhere else online.

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