Holiday World- Major Ride Problems

Wednesday, June 19, 2002 7:32 PM
I go to Holiday World about 3 times a year, and for the past 2 years everytime I go they have major problems with rides. First, the Banshee has been closed for quite awhile now, personally one of my favorites! I went to HW Sunday, and The Legend must have broken down about 6 times, no joke! About 3 times the train got stuck while going up the lift hill! The other 3, the lap bars got stuck, and they had to manually lift them. I'm not saying HW isn't a great park, b/c it's my favorite park, but sometimes I just don't feel safe riding the Legend. One other thing, The Raven is about 5 years older, and never broke down. Looks like they need to put more attention towards the Legend.
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Wednesday, June 19, 2002 7:40 PM

You have no business saying they need to put more work into The Legend! Their maintance guys are world class. Jeff is the greatest guy and cares SO MUCH about that ride. You have no idea how much work he puts into it. I have been twice this year and haven't seen either The Raven or The Legend shut down ONCE!!!!! Obviously you haven't met Jeff. Considering they got new trains this year and had to rework the station, I'd say they are doing damn good.

Eric

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Wednesday, June 19, 2002 7:44 PM
I wouldn't call a restraint not going up a major problem, as with a train stopping on the hill. Both those things happened to me at SRM and I thought it rocked! :)
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Wednesday, June 19, 2002 7:44 PM

That's funny, it is very rare that I go to HW and anything experiences downtime.

Just because trains got stopped on the lift does not mean it broke down. Did they walk the people off? With the new two train operation, Legend's blocks are set so that if a train is dispatched prior to the other train advancing off the final break run, a block set up will occurr and the train will stop on the lift. All that happens then is the ride op brings in the incoming train and re-starts the lift.

A lap bar sticking also does not warrant saying "the ride broke down." When a ride breaks down, then typically they empty the trains and clear the station and que explaining to guests what is going on. I hardly believe a stuck lap bar, or three for that matter, required that.

Why do you not feel safe on Legend? It is indeed very safe, however isn't one of the big thrills about riding a coaster not feeling safe? If you felt completely safe, then the ride would be a bit of a bore.

As far as Raven, it had 5 years to break in prior to Legend... however I guarantee that it has indeed "broken down" in the time since it was opened.... all coasters do from time to time.

If we mesh your concerns together... the following question begs answered....

Would you feel more safe if the Legend's lap bars did not stick from time to time, or if the coaster's safety system did not shut the ride down occasionally?

Shaggy

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Wednesday, June 19, 2002 7:49 PM
The Raven doesn't have a computer while the Legend does - one major reason why the Legend will "break down" (read: set up) more often than the Raven.

-Nate

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Wednesday, June 19, 2002 7:53 PM

About 98% of Legend's problems are when they run two trains. Remember, the station was lengthened and the block system went into use when the new trains were added. Since HW has NEVER had a coaster run two trains, its taking them a little while to get used to the blocking. Also, during SRM, I noticed the trains stack several times. The ride ops were actually moving too fast and getting the trains out of the station before the brake block was cleared. That in turn has caused the train climbing the lift to stop. Once they get the blocking under control, you will see little or no stacking.

I would hardly say one ride down and one going through major programming changes would give reason to badmouth the wonderful park and staff at Holiday World. I have never been to any other park where its employees actually cared about your happiness to do anything in their power to make your visit pleasant. This is common practice at HW. In 2 visits out of 10 months of operation, one ride closure is actually amazing.. Wanna see rides down, visit your neighborhood SF park. Especially one with a DejaVu. SFMM ALWAYS has at least 1-2 attractions down on any given day. Be fortunate you are not one of the thousand or so CoasterCon attendees and arrive at SFMM with X not running. They are actually lucky that Xcelerator's opening wasnt delayed any further. I know if I shelled out that much money to go cross country intending to ride X and it was down, I would he hella pissed.

My .02... please take them as such..

Chris

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Wednesday, June 19, 2002 7:54 PM
Ok, I hate when people argue w/ my opinions, they are mine not yours. And yes, a lap bar getting stuck is breaking down, and yes, there is a reason to not feel safe when the train gets stuck on the lift hill! I'm only human, I dont know what in the **** you are! The maintenance guy was at the station working on something, and then 2 guys climbed the lift hill checking things out. Don't argue w/ me, unless u know everything!
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Wednesday, June 19, 2002 7:57 PM
After a recent visit to WOF, I realized that rides "breaking down" is a very common occurence. At WOF, Timber Wolf broke down about 6 times and Orient at least twice. The fact that Legend keeps "breaking down" should be seen as a testament to Holiday World's dedication to rider safety. It shows that they are right on top of any problem, and even take the most minor problems seriously.
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Wednesday, June 19, 2002 8:02 PM

Your opinions are your own. If you feel unsafe you should of said somthing. I Don't like it when I'm on a coaster and the lift is stopped myself. Personally I think that the ride needs time to be broken back in with the new stuff. If you really had a bad time guest realations is the way to go.

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Wednesday, June 19, 2002 8:12 PM

Burks2005 said:

Ok, I hate when people argue w/ my opinions, they are mine not yours. And yes, a lap bar getting stuck is breaking down, and yes, there is a reason to not feel safe when the train gets stuck on the lift hill! I'm only human, I dont know what in the **** you are! The maintenance guy was at the station working on something, and then 2 guys climbed the lift hill checking things out. Don't argue w/ me, unless u know everything!

O.K. I'll bite.....

I tend to post on the direct side, so I'll just stick to my guns and be direct with you here.

If you are so sensitive about your own opinions and must completely disregard the reactions of others to your opinions, then you are totally missing the point of posting in an open discussion forum.

That having been said, I think your response speaks for itself.

I tend to feel more comfortable when I see maintenance folks on hand monitoring or working on a "broken down" ride. That says two things to me... First, they are keeping a watchful eye on the attraction. Second, they are interested in getting the attraction operational asap so guests waiting, such as yourself, will not become any more aggitated than necessary.

I never feel unsecure on a lift hill (althoguh I have never been stuck on a Zamperla Wild Mouse lift, that would scare me.)

Someone tapped into it a few posts ago. If you are lucky to live close enough to visit Holiday World several times a season then consider yourself fortunate. HW is one of the leaders in pursuing the overall positive guest experience. Go to any other park and you will experience downtime on any number of rides. Heck, go to SFKK and you'll probably leave crying.

Shaggy

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Wednesday, June 19, 2002 8:14 PM

Of course it is your oppinion. What did you want, to state your oppinion and only have people who agree with it post a reply. It's un-likely you'll get anyone to agree with you, so what were you looking for by posting this message???

Rides frequently get stopped on the hill, they were doing it on purpose at SRM. Even if it did require maintance to climb the hill, that is their job and you made it sound as if they are not doing it well and the ride IS un-safe. In fact they do their jobs VERY well, and those rides are very safe. If stopping a train on the hill is a big deal to you, then every park in the nation has major problems. If lap bars getting stuck is a major problem to you, then every PTC and most other trains have major problems to you. The fact is, these are not major problems. They are to be expected. Find a perfect world where everything works perfectly and I'll subtract everything I said.

Eric

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Wednesday, June 19, 2002 8:15 PM

Ok, this has gotten WAY to hostile. Stop it. NOW.

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