Helpful forum tips

Friday, January 26, 2001 7:51 PM
With the insane growth lately, I think it's time to post a little reminder about our forum expectations here.

First off, any topic that starts with best, worst, most, fastest, highest, prettiest, etc. has a good chance to get nuked. While people might respond to such threads, no one every actually reads them.

Second, please give the spelling and grammar check a whirl!
We're, were and where are not the same.
There, their and they're are not the same.
Too, to and two are not the same.
It's and its don't mean the same thing.
The little keys that say "shift" with an up arrow make the characters appear in upper case as you type.

Sure fire things we delete:
Any post that uses chat shorthand (ne, r, u, etc.).
Anything hostile toward another person. Spirited debate, good. Being a jerk and name calling, bad.

Some people can't get used to a moderated environment, but keep in mind that we like to keep the "noise" low here, and try to concentrate on more meaty topics. If you want unmoderated chaos, I suggest another forum.

Your cooperation will help us maintain the level of quality in the forums. I appreciate your help.

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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
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Friday, January 26, 2001 8:12 PM
Another thing to point out (especially to the newer members) is that if your topic gets closed or deleted dont take personally. Its nothing against you. You can be assured that it was closed or deleted for a valid reason. Another thing is dont start another topic retaliating to your previous topic being nuked. It will just make the situation even worse.

Now lets have fun folks,,,,,,,,,,

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"SAVING THE WORLD BEFORE BEDTIME" Powerpuff girls
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Friday, January 26, 2001 10:39 PM
Jeff said:
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"no one every actually reads them."
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Where was the grammar on that one? This thread should be deleted. ;) And those "best, worst, prettiest, etc." forums are my favorites. If you're going to delete something, why would these go before "Youngest buzzer and oldest buzzer?" or "2600" buzzers? What does that have to do with coasters or parks? No offense to the topics. I'm just saying. And I had the topic "Best_____Park". Well, why is best food, best dark ride, best ride at Kennywood, best coaster in PA, best night coaster and best looking coaster still up there. Either go on your word with everyone. Or don't start going at all. Thank you. Have a nice day and no offense. I'm just presenting the facts. And there is never chaos. i think you just deleted mine because I didn't say CP was the best overall park. I thought it was ok for debate and opinions. Apparently not. I'm not mad Jeff and you don't get mad by this, but you are kind of contridicting yourself. Peace.
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Friday, January 26, 2001 10:58 PM
First off bcdzoom, I closed that post because if you look at the responses to your topic, most people didnt give an answer to it. Second, a typo is a different matter then outright disregard for the English language. I myself dont really care much for the best/worst topics but if people answer it in a constructive manner as it relates to the topic then I wont touch it. Like I said previously, dont take it personally. If the other best/worst topics get out of hand they will be dealt with also.

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"SAVING THE WORLD BEFORE BEDTIME" Powerpuff girls
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Saturday, January 27, 2001 12:11 AM
Well, if no one answers, just let it fall down the list. Plus, it takes a little time for people to check something out. It's my topic. Why can't I decide whether or not it was being contructive or being on topic. If not, why can't I just change it around or delete it. The thing about the typo was a joke. You're all good moderators. I just think you're, well, overmoderating. Or, like what was said about the fast pass system with MF, you're making solutions to something without a problem.

Just on a side note for this topic, make sure you write more descriptive titles. Ex: Instead of plainly writing a park's name-"PKI", "Kennywood",
"Hersheypark", add in more detail what it's about. "New coasters at PKI in 2001?", "Hours on Saturdays in April at Kennywood?", "Hersheypark Season Passes". There, I contributed.

Those best/worst topics may not be something for you, but it does a lot for me and others to see what people think and help decisions on whether or not we might want to go to a new park. Sometimes, I'm even inspired to go to a park, because I want to experience the "best" or "worst" things myself. For a "worst" example, I can't wait to ride Grizzly at PGA to just see how bad it is. Or see how great SROS is. Ok? Thanks for listening.
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Saturday, January 27, 2001 5:23 AM

bcdzoom said:
"You're all good moderators. I just think you're, well, overmoderating. Or, like what was said about the fast pass system with MF, you're making solutions to something without a problem."


Overmoderating?!?!? Have you even been out to any other forums, RRC or any other usenet discussion groups? They are all disorganized, there tends to be a lot of flaming, use of objectional words, really bad spelling and grammer. and filled with nothing but noise and redundant posts!

Let me just revisit a quote from Jeff:


Jeff said:
"Some people can't get used to a moderated environment, but keep in mind that we like to keep the "noise" low here, and try to concentrate on more meaty topics. If you want unmoderated chaos, I suggest another forum."



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Neil
Pittsburgh, PA

*** This post was edited by Neil on 1/27/2001. ***
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Saturday, January 27, 2001 6:15 AM
Hey - like I have generally alluded to before, I just get upset when people (including mods, but that isn't a dig) treat other people like they are stupid. Or when they make demeaning or rude comments. It is SO easy to just let your mouth fly when in a forum on the internet. There is nobody there who can physically rip you a new ***hole, so it is easy to be rude and say whatever you want. But it isn't necessary. Why can't people just be gracious to one another, and helpful in a friendly way?

I could care less about all the miscellaneous fluff topics. I just ignore them, but I understand that mods can't. But that is a responsibility that has to be faced when starting a website, or taking over as a manager of one.
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Saturday, January 27, 2001 6:58 AM
Neil, I don't mean overmoderating by closing something that is getting out of hand. I've actually not seen anything that bad for a while. But, if the moderators are going to delete your topic, I feel they should e-mail you and tell you why. If someone made a bad reply(spelling, grammar, obj.words, etc.) don't delete or close the whole thing, just delete that reply. If it was a bad or repetitive topic to begin with, tell them that too. But I don't want to leave my computer and come back to find my thread suddenly "disappeared". So I want to know why. I've never used spell check, but I know that's not the reason. And it's a topic I can't find in search. And if it was from awhile ago, people change their opinions and new people come.

And SilverWinds, I don't know whether you're talking about me treating someone "stupid", but I'm really sorry to everyone if I made it sound that way. I never treat anyone different no matter how smart, pretty, fat, tall, etc. they are if they do something i don't agree with. But I'll just leave it there. After all, you guys aren't even getting paid for this. So, I'll repect that. Thanks.

And Chitown said:

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Now lets have fun folks,,,,,,,,,,
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Aren't those supposed to be periods? C'mon moderators. Get it together. ;) *** This post was edited by bcdzoom on 1/27/2001. ***
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Saturday, January 27, 2001 7:59 AM
Why not just make some sort of unmoderated "ranking forum" to throw those topics INSTEAD of deleting them?

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I'm 2 for 2 so far!!!
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Saturday, January 27, 2001 9:41 AM
I think that the best/worst topics provide some of us, who don't have the time or money to travel the country riding coasters, an oppritunity to hear some comments about rides we may be interested in going out of our way to ride some day. Plus it gives us all some individuality, other than our signatures and names.

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"One good thing about all this, with all this fresh air we're gonna sleep like babies"
Phoenix-A great town and a great coaster
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Saturday, January 27, 2001 9:52 AM
I definitely don't think that best/worst topics should be deleted just because moderators think they're going nowhere. If they slip into a lot of profanity and garbage, that's another story. I enjoy best/worst forums. When not abused, they can provide a good bit of discussion and useful information.
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Saturday, January 27, 2001 9:58 AM
One thing that people forget also is that there are some other coasterbuzz affiliated sites that have forums that seem to be dead. They specialise in certian parks.

www.guidetothepoint.com
xpp.coasterbuzz.com
kennywood.coasterbuzz.com

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"One good thing about all this, with all this fresh air we're gonna sleep like babies"
Phoenix-A great town and a great coaster
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Saturday, January 27, 2001 10:37 AM
Yep. However, don't get the wrong idea... They're all moderated as well. But you know, moderated forums are not a bad thing. Would you rather come to a good, clean forum filled with coaster news, spirited debates, and great conversation, or one with nothing but "My park is better than your park" bickering?

It's not hard to post within the range of acceptability. I can't think of one post of mine that's ever been deleted.

Just be friendly, stay on-topic, watch your language, spelling, and grammar, and don't feed the trolls. ;)

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Matt Lynch
Co-Webmaster, Kennywood Boulevard
http://kennywood.coasterbuzz.com
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Saturday, January 27, 2001 10:44 AM

Lynch said:
...I can't think of one post of mine that's ever been deleted...
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Matt Lynch
Co-Webmaster, Kennywood Boulevard



The word "DUUHH" comes to mind! Nothing personal, but please be serious.

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ATTENTION!!...This is the Alter Ego of Goliath Rocks; If he said something stupid, we're sorry, it's the "G"s talking... *** This post was edited by Goliath rocks on 1/27/2001. ***
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Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:16 AM
The bottom line is that some people like moderated forums, others don't. The whole reason I included forums in the first place is that I can't stand the noise level in other forums. I want better conversation. Did you ever notice that they don't print every letter to the editor in a newspaper or magazine? Same concept here.

If you don't like moderated forums, then by all means, don't participate. I won't take it anymore personally than you should when something is deleted.

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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
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Saturday, January 27, 2001 1:02 PM
...Goliath rocks, I don't get it. I was being serious.

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Matt Lynch
Co-Webmaster, Kennywood Boulevard
http://kennywood.coasterbuzz.com
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Saturday, January 27, 2001 1:06 PM
Actually, I really should apologize for that; I mistook your signature as saying you are the CoWebmaster for this site. No hard feelings, I hope.

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ATTENTION!!...This is the Alter Ego of Goliath Rocks; If he said something stupid, we're sorry, it's the "G"s talking...
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Saturday, January 27, 2001 1:39 PM
bcdzoom -
I wasn't talking about you at all. I was just making a general statement that there needs to be more kindness when responding to people. I used to belong to an RCT forum - I won't say which one - but the members there, as well as some mods, were so darned rude and snotty to people. They had really bad attitudes. They treated you like you were an imbecile for asking a simple question. It really got annoying. If people like that can't accept the ups and downs that go along with managing a website, they shouldn't be mods at all. I just think that ALL of us, including the mods, need to keep in mind that there are some people who genuinely are not familiar with how things work in forums, because they may be new to the internet. It is far more pleasant to go to a site where you are treated with kindness and respect, instead of being made to feel stupid for asking a question. That's all I am saying. I get so tired of seeing people being mean to one another, and when I read some of the comments in here, it just bothers me. Not all of them. In fact, the majority of the posts in here are really nice and helpful to people. Don't get me wrong - I think this is a cool site.
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Saturday, January 27, 2001 3:36 PM
Goliath rocks, no hard feelings at all.

That reminds me... sometimes (especially on the internet) people misunderstand somebody else's comments and proceed to rip them up relentlessly for it. If somebody says something you disagree with, read it again, then a third time, and then try to keep a cool head when responding. Fights are bad. ;)

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Matt Lynch
Co-Webmaster, Kennywood Boulevard
http://kennywood.coasterbuzz.com
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Saturday, January 27, 2001 4:12 PM
"Keepin' it cool, feelin' the flow" ;)
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