hello?!? ... b&m dive machines (or lack thereof)

Monday, April 8, 2002 7:55 PM

why is it that no parks want a b&m dive machine (that we know of, anyways) ?

i think that they would be a lovely puchase for a park... with those HUGE cars, i'm sure that you good get some good RPH #'s...

... and not only a drop and turn.. what about some nice layouts with multiple vert drops? ... i'm sorry, but this coaster seems like a wonderful idea, i'm just disappointed (saddened) that there are not more out there, and the ones that are there, are relatively simple...

a ride like this would be perfect at my home park, SFWoA, and bring something to the park that would truly compete with the other parks in OH, if not the entire country..

Monday, April 8, 2002 8:35 PM
Yeah, PKI needs one. Or any B&M!
Monday, April 8, 2002 8:39 PM

My idea is that there are several rides that have 90 degree drops these days.

Another Oblivion would be frowned on at this point, since we have rides like X and Xcelerator that not only have the same drop as Oblivion (and taller.) but have a whole long ride after the drop.

The idea is that Oblivion is a one trick ride. With its new competition, thats not going to cut it.

But I would welcome a dive machine if they made it a nice long ride, and maybe combined some elements from their speed coasters with that vertical drop.

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Monday, April 8, 2002 8:45 PM
A one trick ride it may be, but what a trick! And I'm sure there could be added track after the drop...
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Monday, April 8, 2002 9:15 PM

But I would welcome a dive machine if they made it a nice long ride, and maybe combined some elements from their speed coasters with that vertical drop.


that's what i'm saying! ... perhaps a SS or AC type layout... maybe even another vert drop thrown somewhere into the mix

*** This post was edited by CoasterFunk on 4/9/2002. ***

Tuesday, April 9, 2002 5:18 AM

The way people describe it, it's just a really expensive novelty ride. I personally have no use for such a ride, since frankly Millennium Force gets close enough to straight down for my tastes.

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Tuesday, April 9, 2002 5:50 AM

Yeah, it would be nice to see B&M build some more dive machines. I hope Oblivion and G5 aren't the last ones ever built.

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Tuesday, April 9, 2002 11:27 AM
why not just take a floorless (or any B&M) and design the track verticle?

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Tuesday, April 9, 2002 12:06 PM
I'll put this as simple as possible, if a park wants one, they have the room, the money, they will ask for one.

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Tuesday, April 9, 2002 1:05 PM
They are extremely expensive, and for the minimal elements that B&M offers for the Dive Machine park don't want to waste their money. Giovanola on the other hand has designed a Dive Machine that can do far more. They had a working model of one at IAAPA 2002 Trade Show with a vertical loop and a planning they pulled out later of one with two loops, an airtime hill, and a helix. Now that is what I want to see built.

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