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My favorite thing at Six Flags Over Georgia is the GIANT Pretzel.
Chances are good that you'll see a ton of pictures of the construction if it's underway in July since the ACE Europe trip is stopping by Heide for a day on it, I can only hope the first drop will be done by then, I'd just like to *see how monstrous that thing will be* :-)
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* The Legend @ HW
* Superman: Ride of Steel @ SFNE
* Mondial Top Scan
I'm interested to see if it will be as big as it was initially claimed to be. There have been a few "official" heights.
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- Peabody
Yeah I'd love to ride that next year....but I'm on the other side of the ocean :-)
I heard its gonna be 412 ft tall and over 8000 ft long (making it the tallest and fastest coaster in the world) I also heard that its going to be built by Intamin.
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Millennium Force......It has its ups and downs.
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My favorite thing at Six Flags Over Georgia is the GIANT Pretzel.
As for the whole "too many curves" thing I completely agree. MF is a neat ride but it'll never be top tier material for me simply because of it's horrid layout after the first drop. The air hill coming back from the island and the bunny hop by the station are nice but give me an SROS or something like the new SFH Goliath over that any day.
The lack of hills and such isn't so much a result of too little funding (after all, it doesn't really matter *what* the coaster is doing, you're still paying for footage!) but the realities of heavy g forces. Rides that are over 300 feet tall generate huge amounts of speed and thus need equally huge elements to keep the forces from becoming too extreme. Sadly I think this is going to mean that more Gigas (Teras, whatever :-) are going to be MF style curvy designs as opposed to Steel Force out and backs or ExGeForce Twisters...that's just the inherent limitations of the design and one of the big reasons why I'm not delaying my trip to Europe because of the thing. Yes, the drop will be unbelievable but other than that the ride doesn't look entirely remarkable...as I said, the smaller Intamins seem to have much tighter and (my favourite) twistier designs which is more my cup of chai.
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* The Legend @ HW
* Superman: Ride of Steel @ SFNE
* Mondial Top Scan
A little bit off-topic:
So are anyone here going with the ACE European Coaster Tour? If so i would love to read a trip report after the trip to see how the coasters and parks in europe compares to the american ones. And do you know if the ACE site will have a trip report updating everyday during the trip like ECC did during the Coolest Coaster Tour.
About the new coaster:
Since Tussauds bought Heide it'll still be built. But it may not be over 400ft as they may not have the permission for that height. The latest height i've heard is 100m high and that's still high enough to break the height record. 100m is about 325ft. And the design may also have changed as it wont be built at the side of Colossos.
But pretty much points at it's still going to be built and i hope it'll be the best Intamin creation for the moment.
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Colin W. said:
Rides that are over 300 feet tall generate huge amounts of speed and thus need equally huge elements to keep the forces from becoming too extreme. Sadly I think this is going to mean that more Gigas (Teras, whatever :-) are going to be MF style curvy designs as opposed to Steel Force out and backs or ExGeForce Twisters...that's just the inherent limitations of the design "
I see your point Colin, but Morgan was able to create an awesome airtime hag With steel dragon. I think given time we'll see a SROS type gigacoaster.
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I agree with Colin W. that MF has the greatest first drop ever created followed by a mediocre layout that's only real great quality is its speed. Addressing Den, you can have airtime with speed....case in point: Phantom's Revenge. I think CP put a lot of stock in people thinking overbanked turns would be awesome: some people think exactly that (although not me). People like MF because of its wow factor, its first drop, and its speed that makes the adrenaline pump in even the most seasoned coaster veteran. However, many non-enthusiasts I know say Magnum freaks them out much more than MF because of the ejector airtime.
I agree CP wanted MF designed just as it is because they didn't want another Magnum, but I also think the fact that this was the first 300ft. + coaster had something to do with the layout, also. They did not want to take risks with excessive forces since it was first of its kind (remember Maggie's reprofiling).
That said, oh what I'd give for a coaster just like MF but with one more camelback, one more bunny hop, and a helix.
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I get the feeling there's a conspiracy over at King's Island to remove anything that has "K" or "C" in its initials.
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Millenium Force's first drop is superb, but not the greatest ever created. Of the top of my head I can count drops like Tower of Terror, Goliath, Steel Dragon 2000, preedited Riverside Cyclone, Oblivion, Shaft of Terror, Thunderbolt, Lightning Racer, Superman:The Escape, and Moonsault Scrambler's hyper drop backwards(the only of its kind to have ever existed), all worthy of tthe same title and have their own advantages over Millenium Force.
Millenium Force is a great coaster, but we all know that Intiman and Cedar Point could have done better.
I didn't know that Magnum had been reprofiled. What exactly did they do to it and when? Thanks in advance.
tye
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Vertigo said:
Millenium Force's first drop is superb, but not the greatest ever created. Of the top of my head I can count drops like Tower of Terror, Goliath, Steel Dragon 2000, preedited Riverside Cyclone, Oblivion, Shaft of Terror, Thunderbolt, Lightning Racer, Superman:The Escape, and Moonsault Scrambler's hyper drop backwards(the only of its kind to have ever existed), all worthy of tthe same title and have their own advantages over Millenium Force.
Firstly, I don't know what Tower of Terror you're talking about, but the only Tower of Terror I know is the Dreamworld Reverse Freefall, which is identical to S:TE. Now, there is no real first drop, you are shot up and you fall back. Sure, the airtime is great, but its all floater, its gentle and gradual. Personally, I prefer ejector air, where you feel your guts pushed up quickly and almost violently.
Steel Dragon 2000's drop is no where good as Millennium Force's in my opinion- although I've never ridden MF, although it looks better. For starters you aren't sitting in a cardboard box where you are enclosed on all sides.
Moonsault Scramble's first drop. It is hard to enjoy a drop when your brain is getting tossed around because of the roughness. I think, the Giant Inverted Boomerangs deserve this title more than Moonsault Scramble.
I haven't ridden the others. I can see how Oblivion or Shaft of Terror or (formerly) G5 would be considered extreme... I mean vertical into a hole in the ground. Goliath Similar, and I'd imagine the height you are up really makes it look extra small.
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So what if the best coaster in Australia is a second hand Arrow?
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Antuan said:
I see your point Colin, but Morgan was able to create an awesome airtime hag With steel dragon. I think given time we'll see a SROS type gigacoaster.
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True enough but at what cost? SD2K was the most expensive coaster ever built (granted, a good part of this was because of the crazy heavy duty support structure) and was additionally the longest ride ever constructed.
I'm not saying that given space and money that full on Giga Twisters aren't possible, just that I'm not expecting to see them anytime soon. Very few parks have the capital *and* space to install stuff like that. Trust me, when a Giga Twister goes up I'll be there for opening day, I love twisters :-)
And to answer the earlier question up above about if anyone is going on ACE Euro, I believe several of us are from the board. I'm hitting only the second leg of the tour (continental Europe) because of the high cost but I'll certainly be doing up a nice TR for each park along the way.
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* The Legend @ HW
* Superman: Ride of Steel @ SFNE
* Mondial Top Scan
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