Has HW released a statement about CCI?

Uh-oh....as I see it that's BAD news about Cliff's. Only other coaster I can think of being done "in-house" was SoB. And, well, the results weren't too great. But if they have the same people they ought to be okay.

As for the thread question, it's plenty valid. It's safe to assume that HW had a closer working relationship with CCI than any other park (or chain, for that matter), especially with what Fierce Pancake said (I had not heard that before). If anybody is going to have something to say about CCI's demise I would expect it to be HW, not only because they work together so much but HW has enough respect for its patrons to put out a statement of some sort if they see people getting worried or asking questions.

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StandUpFan: Viper at Six Flags Great America was designed and built in-house, and that's an amazing ride! I'm sure it can be done if the objective is reasonable.

Cam.

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Lots of Paramount rides were done in-house, not just Son of Beast but The Beast as well.

And it's not like Cliff's came up with this design on their own, everything was pretty much settled upon by the time CCI bowed out. They just have to supervise getting it finished.

The Beast was also in house and we know how that thing is.

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Cameron said:

StandUpFan: Viper at Six Flags Great America was designed and built in-house, and that's an amazing ride! I'm sure it can be done if the objective is reasonable.


Thanks, don't know how I forgot about Viper. Agreed that it's one of the best woodies out there, at least out of what I have ridden. Yes, it's plenty doable, but I still get worried when I hear about that because of the whole SoB fiasco. And I think the Rattler problem resembles that situation more because the plans were changed mid-stream. But they have the same people working on it so I'm holding out some hope that the ride will not be affected.

I have never been to Knoebel's and don't know much about the Twister so I can't say much there.

*** This post was edited by StandUpFan on 7/24/2002. ***


StandUpFan said:

especially with what Fierce Pancake said (I had not heard that before).



That statement was incorrect. After helping to build The Legend, Jeff Hammersley asked us for a maintenance job and, happily, we had an opening. He's been a Holiday World employee for more than two years.

Don't worry about Holiday World's dedication to continue building and maintaining some of the world's top wooden coasters changing in any way. Cheesy as it may sound: Where there's a "Will," there's a way!

Thanks, Paula

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Holiday World & Splashin' Safari
Santa Claus, Ind.
JPWerne@holidayworld.com

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Never a post without a pun from Paula... ;)

Regarding girl scout cookie sales theft: "It'll be interesting to see how this all turns out. Or, how the cookies crumble..."

Regarding the pre-release info about ZOOMbabew: "Gosh! The thing isn't built yet and already it's 'leaking!'"

Regarding ZOOMbabwe's head chopper on Legend: "Yes, indeed! Hmmmm...the Headless Horseman theme fights tighter and tighter."

There are others, but I should really get back to work. :)

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7/27: Subdivision Cam becomes party cam at the year's hottest Ohio luau!

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If I had a park with wooden coasters, I'd be looking real close at CCI's employees right now for someone to maintain my coasters....(is SFMM listening...is this thing ON?)...

Seriously, though, build woodies - maintain woodies....if you let them go, they are WAY harder to bring back to life.....Psyclone may be the only wooden coaster I've ridden that may be BEYOND repair...it would take even Jeff H. and crew a year to get that thing running like a roller coaster again - now it just bounces along what's left of the track....

HW does it the right way....they don't need to do MAJOR work on their coasters BECAUSE they maintain them so well from the start....and because they run SO well, customers have a great time and keep coming back....I know I will....:)

Sorry Mike S., but I thought it was safe to assume that someone who describes Wildcat as "very small" hasn't ridden it. It's 90 some feet tall and 3000 some feet long. That's totally average size for a wood coaster. Nothing close to "very small".

Out of curosity, have you ridden it? What you said sounded like something someone who hasn't ridden it would say.

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mike.s. said:
Yeh but Shivering Timbers is massive, WildCat is very small. Not exactly worth the money, well not to most parks. (I'm assuming since GCI doesnt have alot of coasters).

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It's also a twister. From my highly limited (but not non-existant) experience at building coaster track and supports, out and back style straight hills are a walk in the park compared to a twister's compound curves. Harder = more expensive, every time. Out and backs are also quicker to lay out than twisters and require less supports.

In ST's defense the supports are huge and I mean MASSIVE!!!

I am sure curving track more then makes up for the difference in price. So much more complex.

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All I need is 4.5 million bucks and a half a mile long sliver of land and maybe someone could build me my very own Shivering Timbers. ;)

Well, I guess we have the answer to this thread now, don't we? :)

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Just because that park has two rides by that firm doesn't mean they're soft towards it. So why didn't you ask the same question for Magic Mountain when Arrow went out? Their Ninja, Viper, X, Goldrusher, and Log Jammer were Arrow rides.

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The only thing I care about is how to get to Holiday World.....and soon.

Well, Maybe HW could hire the rest of the CCI staff :)

Im sure they could design and build more than just coasters :)

Chuck, who loves them evil Family Rides

:) :) :)

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