Gwazi not dueling

Tuesday, October 30, 2001 5:51 PM
I'm sure this has been talked about before, but I was wondering why the ride ops don't run Lion and Tiger together.  Are they just idiots? 
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Tuesday, October 30, 2001 6:06 PM
They are slow as anything, that is for sure.  It's a shame they spend all the time designing a coaster that duels and then they just quit doing it.

That is just a case of terrible managers that don't have a clue what they are doing.

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Tuesday, October 30, 2001 7:44 PM
I know a ton of enthusiasts who refuse to ride Gwazi because the ops are rude, non-cooperative, and generally just dumb.  Too bad.  It is a good ride, and deserves more positive attention.  There are many websites that have stressed the situation, but the powers that be aren't listening.  Again....too bad.

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Tuesday, October 30, 2001 8:04 PM
There can be no one at SFKK as there was when I went this summer and Twisted sisters is still dueling.  Too not have a coaster as great as Gwazi (i have heard anyway)to not duel is just a waste.
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Wednesday, October 31, 2001 2:13 PM
BGT's "official" position as I understand is this: Since people were complaining about long waits for Gwazi, an easy way to reduce wait times is to eliminate dueling until further notice.  Apparently, checking restraints ONLY one time was NOT an option, so...no more dueling.  I know alot of people will say "only enthusiasts care about dueling", but there is another side to the story.  Those folks who DON'T ride (generally older patrons) oftentimes like to sit and watch rollercoasters with trainloads of screaming patrons.  A dueling or racing coaster provides those people with a very entertaining place to sit and watch...and multi-track coasters are WAY better for those folks, too!!!  Just my 2 cents...
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Wednesday, October 31, 2001 3:36 PM
Its not just "enthusiast" who like to race. When Gemini was 5 train whoever got snubbed with the 3rd red train would always complain. When the op would ask "how was your ride," a common thing to hear was "It sucked, I wanted to race."

One member of the Gemini crew, who was obviously sick of hearing the complaints said something like "you want Gemini to race, do this. Go to park ops, pick up a brochure and show them a picture of Gemini Racing, say it is not racing and this is false advertisement." LOL.


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Wednesday, October 31, 2001 4:49 PM
yeah, if you have three trains to wait for, it was at least 15-20 min for me.  They have to check the seatbelt and they take a long time, then they have to go back and do the lap bars.  That is why.
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Friday, November 2, 2001 4:13 PM
When I was there they weren't even running the trains full because the park was so empty.  They should have at least made it dueling then.
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Saturday, November 3, 2001 2:06 AM

Neil H. said:
"They have to check the seatbelt and they take a long time, then they have to go back and do the lap bars.  That is why."

Hey, look at it this way. I'll bet nobody ever falls out of Gwazi unlike Perilous Plunge. (booooo.....low blow...:))
jeremy

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Tuesday, November 6, 2001 5:47 PM
Yeh but other parks can check seatbelts and lap bars at the same time.
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Tuesday, November 6, 2001 6:44 PM

Alantis104 said:
Yeh but other parks can check seatbelts and lap bars at the same time.
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And EVERY other park, everywhere, always does it that way in my experience...After riding Phoenix in 1-3 with buzz bars and staying in the train, I'm convinced I could ride Gwazi with NO restraints....not that I'll ever try!  I still love the Gwazi (not many woodies down here) and Lion IS really growing on me, but PLEASE let Gwazi duel again, BGT!
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*** This post was edited by gatorwoodie on 11/6/2001. ***

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Wednesday, November 7, 2001 10:47 AM
Hershey has a dueling racing ride by the same manufacturer, and they race.duel it EVERY time, right on the money.  This coaster usually has a wait of 5-10 minutes with a max of 20 on a busy saturday.  It has lap bars AND seat belts that are checked. 

Of course, Hershey puts effort into giving the customer the most pleasant experience possible.  Racing/dueling is part of the quality of this ride....it adds to the FUN of the ride whether you are an enthusiast or not.  What coaster do you see the most cheering patrons on at the end of the ride?.....a racing coaster!

Sound like poor operations on the part of Busch.  Add them to Six Flags and Paramount (who all possess racing coasters which don't usually race due to sloppy ride operations on the part of ride ops, or closing of one side to maximize profits), two chains who care more about the bottom line in the short run than giving the customer the maximimum experience and increasing the bottom line in the long run.

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Wednesday, November 7, 2001 11:14 AM

super7 said:
"Hershey has a dueling racing ride by the same manufacturer, and they race.duel it EVERY time, right on the money.  This coaster usually has a wait of 5-10 minutes with a max of 20 on a busy saturday.  It has lap bars AND seat belts that are checked."

Lightning Racer and Gwazi arent exactly alike though. If memory serves, Gwazi is operated by TWO SEPARATE control panels whereas Lightning Racer has only the one. Furthermore, Lightning Racer has different trains than Gwazi. LR does not have an INDIVIDUAL seatbelt like Gwazi. For whatever reason, Busch feels compelled to check the seatbelt separate from the lapbar. Assumingly, this is because they feel it is safer for the riders (I disagree). But having been to now five Busch operated properties (SWC, SWF, BGT, BGW and the brewrey in StL) I can assure you that they think *VERY* highly of the guest experience. No matter how misguided I feel the Gwazi loading procedure is, I am compelled to believe that they think it is the best for the guest.

And from what I heard, the reason it *doesnt* duel is to keep one side from waiting for the other, thus reducing the wait: IN DIRECT RESPONSE to guest complaints.
lata,
jeremy

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