# Guiness height record measurement.

Saturday, July 19, 2003 7:49 PM
I was talking with someone and somehow we got on the subject of how Guiness measures the coasters to make sure they are as tall as they say they are. It's not like they have a giant ruler, so what do they use to make sure that Top Thrill Dragster is 420ft. tall?

I know they have something that verifys the speed of the coasters, so I assume they would have to have something to verify the height of the coaster as well. Anybody know?

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Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:07 PM
I'm sure blueprints would tell you the exact height of it, right down to the inch (fraction?). They have to follow some kind of guideline to put all that steel in the right order.

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Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:41 PM
Yeah but I believe the blueprint for MF said 310 ft tall, and its actually 312 ft or something like that. Im betting some sort of laser does the measurement.

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Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:43 PM
They could always do it like 9th grade geomerty, and mesause the shadow, and the length from the base to the end of the shadow. But it would be really funny if someone whipped out a 420ft ruler.

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Saturday, July 19, 2003 9:18 PM
Actually, with New York State increased math requirements, I learned that in 6th grade.

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Saturday, July 19, 2003 9:24 PM
well sortof like using the shadow... you could position a laser a given distance from the top point (on level ground) and then shoot it the point. the laser would tell you the distance (hypotenuse) and angle of elevation. using some simple trigonometry you'd have the answer in no time.

i dunno how they really do it... but thats how i would

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Saturday, July 19, 2003 9:45 PM
They use the old Sicilian method: They throw someone off the top and see how long it takes before they hit the ground.

Hey, if you've perfected a method, I say do it. It's still a lot cleaner than strangling someone with piano wire.

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Sunday, July 20, 2003 3:36 PM
I like the old fashoned string method...somebody holds a string at the bottom, then somebody goes up to the top with the string, puts it on the track at the very top, then puts a mark at that point. Then you just measure the string later on. Maybe that wouldnt work so well with something that big though.

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Sunday, July 20, 2003 4:56 PM
There are lots of ways to do it varying from tape measures to laser range finders. However, the tricky part has to be deciding what the reference elevation for the ground is.

No fair digging a hole under the first hiill to fudge the measurement.

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Monday, July 21, 2003 6:57 AM
I always wondered why CP didn't did an 8' hole under MF's crest to regain the record.

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Monday, July 21, 2003 7:34 AM
Probably because water would fill that 8 foot hole, as it's less than 50 feet from the lake. About the measurment, I'm sure a laser device like surveyers use would be the way to go.

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Monday, July 21, 2003 8:36 AM
Don't they measure it from the station to the top of the lift hill? I also don't believe they go by the blue prints I swear I read that the Steel Dragon was actually shorter than originally claimed but still about 1 ft 8 inches taller than MF.

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Monday, July 21, 2003 9:01 AM
Since most stations are elevated, the measurement from the station to the top of the lift hill would usually be considerably shorter than the real height.

I just checked Guiness. It lists Steel Dragon as 311' 8" vs. the 318' advertised and the 310' of MF.

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Monday, July 21, 2003 9:48 AM
OMG... Steel Dragon is sinking... TAER it down! ;) ;) ;)

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Friday, August 1, 2003 10:45 AM
Laser beam measuring devices do exist fella's. Go to the top of the ride, point the laser down at the ground, and you get your reading.

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Friday, August 1, 2003 11:12 AM
A GPS system would do the same thing for you as well.
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