Guiness Book of Records

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:32 AM

So I just checked out the 2003 version, and I have questions. It says steel dragon is 311 ft tall with a 309ft drop. It also says that six flags great adventure has 71 rides.

First: I thought that cedarpoint had the record for rides with 64 or 62..??whatever. So when did six flags great adventure build 8 new flat rides?

Second: Cedarpoints website/webcam of millenium force says that it has a 310 ft drop. If this is true then why doesn't mf have the record in guiness? RCDB.COM lists mf with a 300 ft drop. So what is up? I thought steel dragon was 318 feet tall?

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:38 AM

Steel Dragon is 318' tall with a 306' drop. Millie is 310' tall with a 300' drop. But even if Steel Dragon's stats were correct as stated in Guiness it would still be taller and have a longer drop than Millie and the record would hold.

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Mamoosh - aka Trouble Boy!

*** This post was edited by Mamoosh on 9/25/2002. ***

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:42 AM
You tell him, Trouble Boy! ....the masked avenger awaits!
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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:09 AM
nasai - you should be my sidekick, Mayhem Man ;-)

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Mamoosh - aka Trouble Boy!

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:11 AM

I think nasai would make an excellent 'Sick-O.'

'We now take you back to the Adventures of Sick-O and Trouble Boy...'

I guess I'd have to be some sort of villain, so you could sick the goons on me.

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'Let's fly close to the sun. Let's do it just 'cause it's fun.' - The Wedding Present '2,3, Go'

*** This post was edited by chris on 9/25/2002. ***

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:18 AM

Let's go over this again.

The book of records is driven by submissions, not fact. If a park wants to claim it has the tallest roller coaster, it tells Guinness the height, and they put it in the book. It stands until someone else's submission tops it.

At least that was the consensus in the last Guinness thread.

My opinion is that the book has gone from a reliable source of information to a picture-loaded coffee-table piece of junk in the last 10 years.

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He let the contents of the bottle do the thinking; can't shake the devil's hand and say you're only kidding.

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:33 AM

I thought that I read about an official measuring session that Guiness had for Steel Dragon that resulted in an official height for the book that was several feet shorter than advertised by the park and just about a foot taller than Millenium Force.

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:38 AM

Den said:

The book of records is driven by submissions, not fact. If a park wants to claim it has the tallest roller coaster, it tells Guinness the height, and they put it in the book. It stands until someone else's submission tops it.



not true. it has to be judged and verified by a group of guiness officials and also officialy measured against the nearest competitors.

a park doesnt just say "oh we have the worlds tallest rollercoaster" and guiness say "ok, you're in the book", without verifying everything meticulously

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:43 AM

I bet it's less precise than you think. In a recent version (2000 I think), there were three coasters with the incorrect names on the coaster page (Blue Steak, Woodcock Express, etc.). If they can't spell a simple name, why should they be trusted with precise numbers?

I think Guinness has been given a lot of authority it doesn't deserve....

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He let the contents of the bottle do the thinking; can't shake the devil's hand and say you're only kidding.

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:56 AM

I'm not Mayhem Man, I am............Titan!

Chris, you should be called......The Giggler!
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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:59 AM
Ahhh... Now, that's a good one. The Giggler! :)

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'Let's fly close to the sun. Let's do it just 'cause it's fun.' - The Wedding Present '2,3, Go'

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:17 PM
Chris, you must remember to call me by my maiden name....Titan. ....and it must be said in a clear and "superhero" type voice.
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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:23 PM
I thought gadv had 61 rides.

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-Sean

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:25 PM

You know, this is almost inspiring me to make a PPP costume.

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'Let's fly close to the sun. Let's do it just 'cause it's fun.' - The Wedding Present '2,3, Go'

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:36 PM

chris - you're gonna dress as the Guiness Book of Records?

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Mamoosh - aka Trouble Boy!

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:51 PM
How'd you guess?

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'Let's fly close to the sun. Let's do it just 'cause it's fun.' - The Wedding Present '2,3, Go'

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:53 PM

I love the fact that the three of us have completely diverted the original point of this thread...:)

Titan!!!!
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www.tripowered.com

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:55 PM

It's what we do best.

Giggler!

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'Let's fly close to the sun. Let's do it just 'cause it's fun.' - The Wedding Present '2,3, Go'

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:56 PM

nasai, "hijacking" threads is what we do.....we're too lazy to start our own, lol....

BTW, Coaster!, next year, WW/EV, and I'll work REALLY hard to get Silverwood on the agenda....(I'll have to, as Idaho is convenient to nowhere else on Earth)....

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Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:57 PM

nasai - well, the guy's question has already been answered [right?]. I'm sure its just a matter of time before the mods get wind of it.

chris - a ton of people have been emailing me, saying I should be Trouble Boy at PPP. Who would have thunk that a name Robb Alvey called me to piss me off would be such an inspiration? Ayway I might be wearing a costume after all.

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Mamoosh - aka Trouble Boy!

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