Great Escape Expansion Note

Friday, October 26, 2001 5:13 AM
I was at great escape on saturday and have BIG news to tell about. Stemon Demon will be replaced by Superman! Also Alpine Bobsled will be replaced by batman. They are redoing the entrance, parking lot, and there will be a hotel. Also a new bridge is going over Route 9. Also the new skycoaster is awesome!

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Friday, October 26, 2001 5:37 AM
And the basis of this report is what?
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Friday, October 26, 2001 7:18 AM
I find this hard to believe, especially because the Superman theme does not fit into a park that has not been upgraded to "Six Flags" status yet, and because NY state already has a Superman hyper at SFDL (that is, of course, assuming that Superman means an Intamin hyper coaster).
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Friday, October 26, 2001 7:57 AM
If the park is getting rid of Alpine Bobsleds, send it back to SFGAm, I'm sure that they can find a new place in the park for it. I havn't been on that ride in ages.
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Hey, SFGAm management, can I buy a couple cages of Sky Whirl?
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Friday, October 26, 2001 8:16 AM
Who did you hear this from? The chinese acrobats? But seriously there is 2 ROS in driving distance, I doubt that will happen.....I wish it would, but higly doubtfull
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wet. Aint down but i cant get up yet. Its a long ride back to the way i want to feel.
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Friday, October 26, 2001 12:13 PM
LOL!! Superman replacing the Steamin Deamon thats a laugh...there's not even close to enough room in that area for a ride that large, plus the Great Escape can not build a structure over 200 ft. Second off the Alpine Bobsled was just repainted...could be truth thats it leaving but i highly doubt it especially since it was just recently put in a few years ago. The bobsled always has a huge line.
The part about the pedestrian bridge however is true...a new entrance plaza is also said to be going up for the 02 season. i live in the area, and hear about everything thats going on at the park. currently not to much is happening, allthough there is something going on behind ghost town...tree's have been cleared. i hope to take some pics of the area this weekend when i go one last time before they close.

*** This post was edited by CalvinJ23 on 10/26/2001. ***

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Friday, October 26, 2001 12:32 PM
That park needs the rides,  im within like 40 minutes from it and Comet is the only ride worthy of the space it takes up. They havent hade a "new" coaster (Alpine Bobsled and  Nightmare are from other parks) in years. And those to rides have the longest frickin' que ever. At lest comet's line is somewhat waitable since it is such an awsome old coaster.

Plus they have like no room to expand and it doesn't help that the people that live around the park wont let them expand at all even to improve important things like paved lots, better pollution control etc.

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Friday, October 26, 2001 12:56 PM
As much as I wish this could happen for the Great Escape, there is no way it is.  Heck, I'd just be happy with an "old school" wooden mouse (like the one the park used to have) and if thy put the Huss Enterprise back in.  Oh yeah, and give Nightmare back to DL.

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The Great Escape- Home of the Reject Coasters!

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Friday, October 26, 2001 1:18 PM

Well, we all know that 2002 WILL be a big expansion year for The Great Escape considering that they got the okay from the environmental board to add & expand. We also know that they have been wanting to do this for a few years, but that was their major obstacle, so we were stuck with just minor improvements. I guess the only question that remains until Great Escape officially announces the 2002 line-up is what they will get.

First things first... The Great Escape has a LOT of land for expansion. They have the area beyond the picnic pavillions, the have the area past where Jungle Land is, and they also have the area behind Ghost Town which is currently being cleared for something (AND, GE does own that).

Now, Superman will NOT replace the Steamin' Deamon, or at least a coaster named as such. Why? Because the themed areas in The Great Escape will stay just as they are. Steamin' Deamon is in the Ghost Town themed area. It doesn't make any sense to put a Superman named coaster right there. I can see a coaster named that towards the back of the park.

Nobody ever said what kind of coaster this "Superman" would be... but if there was a coaster to replace Steamin Deamon (which, frankly... it looks nice from the road, but it's a nothing ride!!) they could do what SFWoA did and take out some of that parking lot since it was so small and just put something in there... something nice and worth re-riding.

I can tell you that the Bobsleds will also not be replaced or taken out. That is kind of an original ride and there aren't too many bobsleds around anymore. It adds to the "family" atmosphere of the park like most of their other rides.

However, I DO see the bridge as CalivinJ23 has mentioned, as well as a few other proposals that are non-ride.... but I also see a coaster going in behind Ghost Town... what kind? Most likely a wooden. I don't know why, but I just have that feeling that if they are going to add a coaster, it will be a wooden one in the Ghost Town area because of the theme. I can also picture another one, but until 2003. I see them putting back the "Rainbow" and the "Sky Lab" as well as a few other flat rides in the 2002 expansion because The Great Escape needs some new major thrill rides.

Basically, The Great Escape will be expanding year after year for the next few years. They said it themselves. They also have the land, space, & funds to do it... it all boils down to what they will get, and if they will get ruined by branding it with the Six Flags name & theme (loony tunes & super heros)

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Saturday, October 27, 2001 10:59 AM
I was told this info by an employee that works at Stemin Demon and at Alpine Bobsled. They both said that Stemon Demon will be either replaced or moved by Superman or Batman. Then I asked about what would happen to Ghost Town. He said they are going to retheme it to be Super Hero something. The guy at alpine bobsled said he didn't know what was going in but that Alpine Bobsled would not be there for long.
Also, GE could put superman along that road that goes from the mini-parking lot to the back of ghost town.
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Saturday, October 27, 2001 11:01 AM

Also, he said that they are getting rid of Alpine Bobsled because it is always broken down.
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Saturday, October 27, 2001 1:42 PM
uh huh. Sure. Sounds like a fantasy to me. I live by SFWoA and personally I say watch what you wish for.

God I miss our old Corkscrew. Never did get a chance to ride it. Would give up X-Flight for a bobsled easily.

*and now I brace for the bashing*

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G.Bush:We will find those who did it, smoke them out of their holes, get them running, and bring them to justice.
I pray that I will never see a Six Flags Conneaut Lake

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Saturday, October 27, 2001 2:39 PM
Nope, can't be a Superman ROS because 200 ft. is their limit. Anyway, why would they do that? SFDL's is Sooooooo good and it's only a few hundred miles away(rolls eyes)Oh yeah, their changing to SFAE (six Flags Adirondack Escape)

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*** This post was edited by SfdlDude on 10/27/2001. ***

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Saturday, October 27, 2001 3:27 PM
When you mention the words "Superman Coaster", it doesn't necessarily mean "Intamin Hyper". If you don't remember, there are a few other 'Superman' coasters out there (intamin impulse, anyone?)...

...however, I take this with a major grain of salt for 2 reasons.

1) Any coaster that will be 200 feet or slightly above will be located in the park closest to sea-level. It will be located in the lowest area of the park, which is towards the back.
2) I cannot see them re-theming the Ghost Town area to a superhero themed area with the rides and settings they got. What, will the cave turn to the "Bat Cave"? What about the Desperado Plunge, Nightmare coaster, Tornado ride, & Ghost Train ride? Those all have a general theme that fit very nicely into the Ghost Town... how would they handle that?

They wouldn't!! It'd be a giant waste of money that could be better used to adding additional rides/attractions and fixing up rides that actually need it (rainbow & sky lab anyone?).

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Proud to be an American!!

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Saturday, October 27, 2001 6:51 PM
I want rolling thunder back!
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Saturday, October 27, 2001 6:53 PM
Just got back from Great Escape, and I spoke w/a few ride ops at the park asking about this. They told me that everything was false, but that there would be a few new rides to grace the park along with a pedestrain bridge, new water system for the park, and entrance plaza, along with a few small additions. The park will keep the Great Escape name as it is so widely known in the area. They wouldnt confirm that it would be branded SFGE, but thats what they made it out to be basically. ill be back at the park tommorow for the final day as im still up in Lake George right now. Im gonna try and take some pics of the area thats being cleared out and find out more as to what is going in that area if anything.
till tommorow
 
and btw...the bobsled wasnt broken down alot, it was hardly every down this past season. the reason it was shut down so much this summer is because they were doing other things to it, and at the start of the season were also short on employee's. If any ride would be removed for braking down alot it would be the boomerang. everytime ive been there this year its been closed for part of the day because of some problems.

*** This post was edited by CalvinJ23 on 10/27/2001. ***

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Saturday, October 27, 2001 7:32 PM
I heard what I heard but why is everyone saying Great Escape soon to be six Flags Adirondack Escape?
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Sunday, October 28, 2001 2:33 AM

milleniumforcer said:
I heard what I heard but why is everyone saying Great Escape soon to be six Flags Adirondack Escape?
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Be patient, it might take a few months to find out.  

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One speed Doesn't Fit All!

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Sunday, October 28, 2001 2:41 AM
Perhaps they will get a Flying Dutchman themed to Superman or Batman. Let's not count out a woodie. They only have one (The Comet) as far as I know, but these are the types of coasters they could get under a 200 ft height limit. Intamin Impulse, Deja Vu clone, woodie, Flying Dutchman, small B&M looper...any of these culd go into there, it will be great to see it tranformed into a large park in the coming years. Just don't get a clone of my home park's best SFNE SROS! j/k
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Sunday, October 28, 2001 3:29 AM
I feel that if SF wants to improve this park then they need to move it.  The 200ft restriction is rediculous, and as for Bobsled being closed all the time...that is the fault of the neighbors.  They are only allowed to operate it between 12-8pm due to noise.  All of this "not in my backyard" is silly...so why now bring it down here to Albany?  At least we would appreciate having SF money coming in!
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