Friday, February 28, 2003 8:48 AM
What are the chances of SFGA getting a Giga Coaster within the next 5-10 years. Also Where could you picture the coaster being located at?
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Friday, February 28, 2003 8:58 AM
Which SFGA....Great America (which is where I will assume you are asking about) or Great Adventure?
At SFGAm (Great America) I find it highly doubtful that they will install a "Giga coaster" in the near future. They wont install a "Strata coaster" ever unless they can get Gurnee to change the zoning regulations. Currently they can go no higher than the SkyTrek tower ride.
If they did install a "Giga Coaster" I believe it would end up in the vicinity of the American Eagle as that is far enough away from most of the homes that would complain about such a ride.
My guess is that they will try to install some more unique rollercoasters in the future rather than a "giga coaster".
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Friday, February 28, 2003 9:00 AM
What are the chances? About zero.
Friday, February 28, 2003 11:35 AM
(emphasis on the m) proves you don't need height. Viper, Batman, Iron Wolf, S:UF (I don't know it's great, but allegedly the SFOG S:UF was intended for SFGAm, and now we're getting one), and although I don't agree with this, people will say Whizzer. You don't need three hundred feet for a good ride.
Friday, February 28, 2003 12:08 PM
My prediction for the next few years lets say 5 years. They will put a water park across the High way somehow. Then I think that they will put a B+M Floorless or a 4d or Some Type of cool full circut fun intead of the Nightmare they had with Deja Vu I think that will be in the Space Shuttle America Area and they will take out those go karts. Thats My prediction what are yours.
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Friday, February 28, 2003 12:21 PM
Seeing as though they already have a popular hyper-twister, why do they need a giga? It just doesnt fit SFGAm's lineup anyway.
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Friday, February 28, 2003 12:35 PM
CoasterDude, the same thing could have been said for CP before they built MF...or before they built TTD...
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Friday, February 28, 2003 12:53 PM
Sure, but SFGAm doesn't have the drawing power that CP does. CP is a resort, SFGAm is an amusement park. Take a look at attendance figures.
It's not just that, though. CP has competition and SFGAm does not. There's no reason for SFGAm to build such a huge, expensive ride when something smaller (and cheaper) will draw in crowds just fine.
Don't count on it happening.
Friday, February 28, 2003 1:20 PM
I recently had a conversation with a high up employee from SFGAM who told me that it is 99% certain that there will not be a "Coaster" higher than raging bull for a LONGGGGGGG TIME.
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Friday, February 28, 2003 1:59 PM
Coasterdude....Great america's attendance is not that far off from Cedar Point. You make it sound as if Cedar point is up there with IOA....which it isnt (as far as attendance goes)
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Friday, February 28, 2003 2:37 PM
Holydumb26, SFGAM will not remove the go karts. They would never remove an attraction thats pretty new and makes thousands of dollars. It won't happen. They might add a coaster over in that area but they are not going to take out the go karts.
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Friday, February 28, 2003 3:03 PM
In 2002, Cedar Point attendance was (I believe) 3.25 million. SFGAm's attendance usually hovers right around 3 million (I don't have an attendance figure because SF doesn't release them). That's not a huge difference, but I never said CP was way up there (I believe IOA usually draws about six million people).
My point in claiming CP can more easily afford such a ride has more to do with the fact that CP has the potential to make more money than SFGAm because of its resort status. CP makes loads of money from those staying in hotel rooms and camping, and loads more from their waterpark (neither of which SFGAm has). A new coaster at CP drives up attendance in all of those areas, while a major new coaster at SFGAm isn't going to have that much of an effect really.
In any case, CP's attendance is always higher than SFGAm's. You can interpret that statement how you wish, but assuming that means CP draws 6 million guests every year is incorrect.
Friday, February 28, 2003 3:22 PM
I woudl say the Biggest competetion GAM has is from CP. The Michigan and Indiana market is very apt to go to either. CP has a Sign on 94 in Gurnee for Pete's Sake!
Friday, February 28, 2003 4:51 PM
The compition with CP will keep them from building a giga or tera since they are going to want to offer something unique. My guess is a floorless is a good bet or maybe if SS Arrow gets their act together and fixes the 4D design maybe one of those, same goes for a Thrust Air.
I don't care what anyone says, Magnum is better then Millenium Force.
Friday, February 28, 2003 5:42 PM
I really don't think CP is is really any competition for SFGAm. These parks are almost six hours apart, and the majority of Chicagoans are going to go to SFGAm no matter how much CP advertises.
The people CP is attempting to draw in with their billboards in Chicago are those looking for a weekend resort vacation (something SFGAm can't really offer). I would almost think CP would be more of a threat to Wisconsin Dells than SFGAm (again, people looking for a weekend getaway). I would guess most people go to SFGAm once every summer no matter what. They may lose some guests here and there, but not really enough to make choices about future additions or advertising strategies over.
Friday, February 28, 2003 5:53 PM
. CP has a Sign on 94 in Gurnee for Pete's Sake!
Clue me in on where this sign exactly is at in Gurnee. I drive the tollway by SFGAm every weekend and not once have I seen a CP sign. They do however have billboard signs near O'hare airport and in the southern suburbs along the highways.
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Friday, February 28, 2003 6:31 PM
Antuan, Cedar Point is a seasonal park, Islands of Adventure is a non-seasonal park. Its almost like comparing apples to oranges as far as attendance goes.
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