Great Adventure, July (can't remember the date)
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Visited the park and let me just say that this park is a train wreck. I might never go to a Six Flags park ever again, because of our bad experience.
The Rides- Well let me start off by saying that 3 of the major coasters were broken, Great American Scream Machine, Kingda Ka, and the Chiller. And let me say the rides I rode were not even that great. Why do they have like all upside down rides? Some people don't like those. Get a better ride selection. Although they did have some fun flats I must say. Oh and the water rides were horrible, we went on all three, because we had so much time left, because we rode all the coasters that were running and let me add that had just OK operations, and LONG lines. So now about the water rides, we went on all three and they were not so great, the Log Flume was probably the best, the water kinda looked dirty though, the Water Effect one sucked, had a small hill and the water reaked (guess they never clean it, so I hear), the rapids ride was the worst, barely any rapids, NO waterfalls running, it felt like a kiddie ride that all you do it float on a boat down the river, oh yeah and the water was filthy, I realize on this one that they clean it out everyday but the water was still gross, it was green and even had trash floating in some parts, GROSS.
Employees- Very rude and obviously do not care about their customers, they were slow at everything, loading rides, getting food, unloading rides, etc. It was an all time nightmare.
Park Cleanliness- Let me just say the park isn't the cleanest, some trash on the midways, trash stuck in bushes and flowers, cigerette buds in non smoking areas, overflowing trash cans, oh and in the ques it was HORRIBLE, trash underneath the rides, trash in between vending machines, they even had a gum wall, and there were wads of chewing gum all over the place. Bathrooms were gross too, paper towels all over the floor, no soap, overflowing toilets, disgusting. Six Flags really needs to get their act together and soon.
Prices- Now these were over the roof, $15 to park?! You're kidding right? Food was totally expensive, $4 FOR WATER! Our lunch and dinner were all over $40 and there was ONLY 3 OF US! I've never been to a park with such high prices in my life! (although I haven't been to that many)
People in the park- There were thugs everywhere, tattooed people, piercings all over their bodies, etc. I'm not trying to be rude, but it is true.
Overall, we had just an OK time and were kind of excited to get out of this place, after walking out of this place we thought we would encounter no more problems, but boy we were wrong, traffic everywhere getting out and no one to direct it, oh and let me add, we left around 8:30 and the parking lot was like a landfill, trash everywhere, McDonalds bags, plastic cups all over, basically all fast food joint trash.
Well, there ya go. This was my first time ever to a Six Flags park and it was not a good first encounter. Maybe I will return some day, maybe I won't. Who knows. It was just ok/bad.
(Sorry if there are any typos or anything, and sorry if I was to harsh) *** Edited 8/6/2007 2:27:27 AM UTC by CedarPoint837***
It sucks that you didn't have a good time at the park. My friends and I go there every year, but always in the very early season. This way crowds are very light and poor operations aren't as noticeable. But, we like the park because they have some great coasters. You really didn't miss anything by GASM being down. That's the worst ride in the park. Well, maybe tied with Rolling Thunder.
Maybe my friends and I are just used to living in NYC, but we didn't think the park was all that dirty this year. We didn't notice trash all over like you said. In the parking lot at park close, sure. But, even Cedar Point has trash all over the parking lot at close.
If you are interested in going back, try early in the season - like late May or early June. You might have a better time.
There were even people without teeth at HP so I wouldn't characterize SFGADV as being that sole place. Since we hear it so much about SFGADV we can at least appreciate it that it has so many enthusiasts attention and in attendance there. *** Edited 8/6/2007 4:07:07 AM UTC by CHILLERLC1*** *** Edited 8/6/2007 4:08:01 AM UTC by CHILLERLC1***
And I did have some encounters with the people, as in being obnoxious in line, throwing basketballs around, trying to impress their friends by being obnoxious to people, etc. Some of the interesting looking people I saw I did not encounter with, they just you know had tattoos and piercings all over. *** Edited 8/6/2007 4:17:17 AM UTC by CedarPoint837***
I was there last summer, mainly to ride (ok, get credits...) on Kingda and Toro. It was a living nightmare. I was in hell. Got those 2 credits and got the heck outta there. Toro was a good ride, but it was new, with one train, and were those ride ops ever so slow.
I was lucky to ride Chiller once (well there once when it was open, Robin anyway). Before they took the rolls out, and geez that was a great ride! Just lapbars and no wait. Was a top 10 steelie for me easy.
With all the complaining about thugs, just remember, most of them come from the 'burbs, got it! :)
Same thing with Great America. All the pissed off acting out teens, with their spitting, gay jokes, line jumping and mall baught Ramones t-shirts - with season passes.
There are alot of nice people with all kinds of crazy piercings and tatoos, so don't judge a book by it's cover. They're usually more interesting and know more about life than the usual .. uh .. person.
CedarPoint837 said:
The Rides- Well let me start off by saying that 3 of the major coasters were broken, Great American Scream Machine, Kingda Ka, and the Chiller. And let me say the rides I rode were not even that great. Why do they have like all upside down rides? Some people don't like those. Get a better ride selection.
Can you possibly write more intelligently? I'm referring to your "Why do they have...," and "Get a..." sentences. You make the brilliant observation that some people don't like rides that go upside down. It would be like me saying at CP, "Gee, some people don't like rides that are two-hundred ft. tall or taller."
Since Cedar Point is part of your screen name, may I point out that Maverick, Raptor, Mantis, and Corkscrew go upside down? Let's count the upside-down rides (coasters only) at Great Adventure: GASM, S:UF, Medusa, B:TR, and Chiller (if you want to count Chiller as having two tracks, that makes six--if not that's five to CP's four).
Counting the non-inverting coasters at GAdv. we have: Rolling Thunder (with two different tracks), El Toro, Blackbeard's Lost Treasure Train, Kingda Ka, Nitro, Skull Moutain, Runaway Mine Train and Road Runner Railway. So I think the problem is that you don't like to go upside down.
I'm sorry you didn't know, but it's fairly common knowledge that Chiller is out of commission for now. They are waiting on a part. Trust me, we were bummed too that it wasn't open. GASM may look cool, but it's pure Arrow-torture. Consider yourself lucky it wasn't open--unless you like Arrows like my friend.
I don't know what to say about Kingda Ka. It was open the whole day we were there and had one technical problem where they had to remove one of the trains. Top Thrill Dragster broke on us at CP as well (but did reopen). They're very tempermental rides.
Park Cleanliness- Let me just say the park isn't the cleanest, some trash on the midways, trash stuck in bushes and flowers, cigerette buds in non smoking areas, overflowing trash cans, oh and in the ques it was HORRIBLE, trash underneath the rides, trash in between vending machines, they even had a gum wall, and there were wads of chewing gum all over the place. Bathrooms were gross too, paper towels all over the floor, no soap, overflowing toilets, disgusting. Six Flags really needs to get their act together and soon.
Gee, the bathrooms were gross with paper towels and toilet paper all over the floor? That sounds exactly like my trip to Cedar Point in June. By far the worst bathrooms I've ever seen at an amusement park. And there was water all over the floor (at least I hope that's what it was) in some of the bathrooms.
We were just at Gadv. last week and didn't see any of the things you saw. It's quite possible that someone came in to kick their butts in between your trip and ours.
People in the park- There were thugs everywhere, tattooed people, piercings all over their bodies, etc. I'm not trying to be rude, but it is true.
You've got to be kidding me. People had tatoos? And they had piercings? How would you know they had piercings all over their bodies? Do you live in some sheltered existence? I'm sorry but you can see the same kind of people at Cedar Point, and Busch Gardens Europe.
after walking out of this place we thought we would encounter no more problems, but boy we were wrong, traffic everywhere getting out and no one to direct it, oh and let me add, we left around 8:30 and the parking lot was like a landfill, trash everywhere, McDonalds bags, plastic cups all over, basically all fast food joint trash.
Again, we had no problems exiting the park last Monday, and there was someone directing traffic. I will agree that there was trash everywhere in the parking lot, but that's life. It's either you provide enough parking, or they'd have to put a trash can every two feet. *** Edited 8/6/2007 7:34:10 AM UTC by Intamin Fan***
You said you had so much time left in the park and were bored yet you rode all of the operating coasters, several flats and 3 water rides. Yet the lines were long and the operations were slow.
I struggle to get all the coasters done on a busy day let alone ride everything else.
And what's your member name? CedarPoint837! Sounds like another Cedar Point fan boy bashing another Six Flags Park.
May I suggest a visit to SFMM, I'm sure you'll love it.
*** Edited 8/6/2007 7:40:15 AM UTC by Grant***
IntaminFan, I read through that whole essay of yours and you are quite wrong in lots of parts. I guess you don't know that a lot of parks have off days and good days. I've noticed that. So maybe I went on an off day. I realize you are a fan of GA, but come on! There is no need for you to go off on Cedar Point, because I went off on GA. I was being honest. It's pretty rediculous also that you think you know what I saw at the park when you weren't even there to witness what I saw. Yes, the people I'm talking about. But whatever, the people that defend them I guess are the people themselves. About the upside down rides, I just think that they are OKAY kind of rides, I prefer non upside down, and yes Cedar Point has 4 rides that go upside down, BUT they have 13 other coasters that don't. The magority of GA rides go upside down and the rides that don't are kind of kiddie, excluding Ka and Toro. Next time, I think you should not compare YOUR trip to other peoples trips, because parks do have different kind of days as I said, good days and bad day. So there ya go.
Now, Grant, I see you said I didn't say any pros, well I guess you're right I didn't. Here are some pros right here for ya, Pros: Toro and Ka were very fun, had nice landscaping in some parts and would look fanominal (if they didn't have trash stuck in some parts!), I really liked the tiny waterfall the best will all the bushes and trees. That's about all I can name.
So guys, I'm not some Cedar Point fan trying to bash Six Flags. Honestly, I find that lame when people do that. I just don't like the way Six Flags runs their program. I'm just very honest with my feedback. Thank you.
Intamin Fan said:
I will agree that there was trash everywhere in the parking lot, but that's life.
That's not life. There are plenty of parks that have very well kept parking lots that are free of excessive trash.
I don't have first hand knowledge of what SFGAdv's parking lot looks like on an average evening but if there really is a trash problem chalking it up to "that's life" isn't really excusable because plenty of other parks don't have the same issue.
If the parking lot was littered with garbage in the morning, then I would agree there is a problem. But, if they clean it up after people leave (or AS they are leaving), what more do you want? Granted, I could see putting in more garbage cans. But, again, that won't make people use them.
If it really is a problem I guess you could say it's an urban area and people in New Jersey are just more likely to be litter bugs than people elsewhere but I really wouldn't buy into that sort of thing, personally, I don't think.
Can I ask how many parks you have been too and what parks they were?
1. You can remember all that horrible stuff, but not the date you went?
2.Trash in the parking lot, I've been to CP as well as 22 other parks and about 75% had a large amount of trash in the parking lot. PEople are rude and there is never enough trash cans in SFGADV parking lot.
3.As for a ride selection, who your supplier I wanna smoke some your stuff. SF has 12-13 coasters depending on how you rate Chiller. If your referring to Flat rides then we all know they lack in that department.
4.Major coasters closed (GASM?) GASM's hay day was a long time ago.
I find your trip report aragont and very negative. SF isn't going to please everyone. However, you being a coaster member should open your eyes up and know that and accept it. Do research beforing going to the park. Why so many upside down coasters? Did you know anything about the park before you went?
I'd read other trip reports and threads before posting. Your negativity is unwanted. *** Edited 8/6/2007 7:10:37 PM UTC by Crashmando***
Thanks,
DMC
Enjoy the Park.
I posted a trip report on SFGAdv earlier this summer, i'm not a fan, but I look like i'll go every chance I get, compared to your post.(Even, i wouldn't mind, EL TORO!)
People who read these trip reports like to hear that you had fun at parks, along with some concerns. by the sound of your trip, you should have left sooner.
Maybe you just have bad luck, but I think Six Flags deserves more credit than you're giving it. As for the rides, they are all fun, except GASM. And i'm suprised there was no enthuasic report about your El Toro ride, that every trip report has included in some form or fashion.
-Why is Wicked Twister closed?
~Biting Flies.
-Biting Flies...
Then, in a follow up, said "Pros: Toro and Ka were very fun, had nice landscaping in some parts and would look fanominal ". So Ka was closed, but fun to ride ? *** Edited 8/6/2007 8:44:04 PM UTC by Downhill Screamer***
The last time I went KK was down all day, S:UF was closed for much of the afternoon and only opened with one train, Chiller was down all day (as expected, but still), B:TR was down at least a couple hours in the afternoon and Nitro closed at 5 pm and never came back up.
If the guy had a bad time, he had a bad time. It's not like any of his complaints aren't things we haven't heard in every other TR from the place for the most part.
And it's obvious he may not have much else to compare the park to, other than CP, but maybe I'm nuts for thinking it's nice to get some opinions from people who haven't been to a ton of parks... *** Edited 8/6/2007 9:22:44 PM UTC by matt.***
I know Six Flags Great Adventure draws quite a few people, and im sure the lines were long. I also have heard the horror stories of the crews being kinda slow, but for the most part i have heard Batman the ride and especially Nitro have some solid crews there from other TR's.
I can also agree on your points of high prices, but eating is really no different at Cedar Point, the best thing you can probably do is bring your own lunch and leave it in a cooler in your car. Its much easier, and i hate spending money to eat at CP. Parking also i can feel that pain, but you got to research what your getting into, because i went to two six flags parks last year and knew i was paying 15 to park.
Its cool to go to a park for the rides and such, but i leave you a tip to research what others are saying and do a bit of your own research it helps. It makes trips more enjoyable, and also it allows you to decide if it is something you really want to do, it also helps fit in your budget.
As far as not going back to six flags again, maybe just not that one. I can tell you from experience, that the two i have went to have been good. (SFNE and when Darien Lake was under the ownership) Yeah sometimes things arent always what they are cracked up to be, but you also must learn that if you compare parks, you will set your expectations to probably exceed or fail what you have them stacked up against.
With that being said the smaller parks are my favorite because of charm and a much better experience, because if i were a betting man, you went in believing that Cedar Point was going to destroy that place in every aspect, and im sure you saw it that way. If i had my way i would go to Kennywood and Holiday World over Cedar Point everyday, and thats just because they are better places in my book.
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