Gravity Group tests coaster-train prototype at Holiday World

Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:38 PM

I think the thing a lot of people are waiting for is the actual seats and lap bars. The other features are certainly important to the owner of the ride, but I want to see that comfort! :)

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Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:45 PM

Have any details been released about what type of lapbars will be used on the Timberliners?

(T-bars, please!)

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Friday, April 17, 2009 8:03 AM

The trains look like they have a lot of potential. I'm excited to see them running somewhere.

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Friday, April 17, 2009 8:28 AM

DantheCoasterman said:Have any details been released about what type of lapbars will be used on the Timberliners?(T-bars, please!)

Birdies tell me there may be some sort of fitting. I don't think the idea is a T Bar. I could be wrong. But from what I gather, Think more like X car.

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Friday, April 17, 2009 10:49 AM

It is not practical to use a conventional style of lap bar on a Timberliner. I won't get into why just yet, but it isn't.

The Gravity Guys have come up with something interesting, though. If you look closely at the design of the seat frame shown in the photos, you can get some clues as to what they're doing. Best hint is that any restraint used needs to attach to the seat frame, not to the car chassis.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

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Friday, April 17, 2009 11:01 AM

Are you saying you expect side hinged lapbars ala Phantom's Revenge, Dave?

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Friday, April 17, 2009 7:31 PM

Velcro? lol

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Friday, April 17, 2009 11:35 PM

I think that the relationship between Gravity Group and Holiday is absolutely unbelievable. "Hey can we come out to your park and send our trains around on your ride?" Sure, no problem.

Plus I understand they built all those rides and such and yet I find it so weird that just come in and be the operator and know exactly what to do. Very strange but very cool.

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Saturday, April 18, 2009 7:50 AM

Well, you can only do so much with computer sims. You need to get the prototype out to the "real world" and test it sooner or later.

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Saturday, April 18, 2009 3:11 PM

I think The Gravity Group has a good enough relationship with all the parks that have their coasters that they could have tested their trains at any one of them. Holiday World makes the most sense because of its proximity to where TGG is located and the fact that the weather is likely to be better here than in Erie or Wisconsin Dells. Raven was a good choice because it is a shorter coaster with not many places where a rollback might occur.

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Saturday, April 18, 2009 8:27 PM

No one is considering that a little money might have exchanged hands? Good relationship or not, Holiday World had to pay their maintenance people to get the ride ready for the day, plus electricity, wear and tear, etc.

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Saturday, April 18, 2009 8:37 PM

Riiiiiight...because no one has been at the park these last few weeks getting everything ready for opening day.

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Sunday, April 19, 2009 3:43 AM

To me, it goes like this. HW provided the means. Raven provided the opportunity. But The Voyage is the coaster that gave rise to the motivation for these trains - and I wouldn't be shocked to learn that it might be the first coaster to utilize Timberliners...as early as 2010.

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Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:31 AM

Gator, They were thinking different trains long before Voyage. Trust me. And PTCs solution to the problem wasn't even close to what was needed.

Last edited by Charles Nungester, Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:32 AM
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Sunday, April 19, 2009 11:18 AM

^Agreed that they had to be in the works probably from the day TGG came into being - their hyper-aggressive layouts demand more "navigationability" than other coaster trains could provide. But until They Voyage, I'm not so sure parks were as convinced of the need. And a product that doesn't have customers seeing the need is a product without a market. MFlyers are excellent trains, very well designed to run on (frankly) much less aggressive layouts.

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Sunday, April 19, 2009 11:25 AM

I couldn't help but think this comment from Paula on the blog about the testing was also a hint:

The testing went remarkably well and the train is now back in Cincinnati. We put our PTC trains back on the tracks for another season.

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Sunday, April 19, 2009 11:43 AM

^And by hint, you are meaning...'another' season...?

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Sunday, April 19, 2009 1:09 PM

Yes, although it may not be a hint at all. And I've got no inside info.

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Sunday, April 19, 2009 2:00 PM

Neither do I. :)

Paula

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Sunday, April 19, 2009 2:15 PM

...and if anyone were to have it, it'd be you! ;)

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