Goodbye Kingda Ka? - CoasterBuzz

Yes and also to go with the popularity of rides, there also those who will stay in line for the mechanical issues they have.

The problem with Ka and correct me if im wrong here, as compared to dragster is there is less capacity. Isn't it something like 4 trains to 6 on dragster. I know dragster routinely runs 5 but, the stacking and the employees doing their jobs also takes time. I also know many a time for dragster they have booted people for being a bit larger in the wasteline.

It just seems that the ride itself with all of its mechnanical problems are to blame for their unreliability over the years they have stood. Speaking of dragster experience it has always been down at least once during the day for something, it seems that the problems with these coasters have far outweighed the rewards of putting them there in the first place. It just comes down to how long they can really put up with the problems they have, and the money they are willing to spend on keeping them running.

Resident Arrow Dynamics Whore

I am not be going to SFA any more unless they change. which I dought that SFA will ever change as long as Snyder is in charge. I wet to SFA on October 6 for the very last time. Because as my buddy and I were waiting in the SROS line in the 1st row. they had a tempary delay and took off the Blue Train.

And as we were waiting in the line they let a whole bunch of Flash pass holders board SROS and they even let them board the 1st row. And we had to wait another cycle. The I told my buddy and his girl friend that this was my last day going to SFA. I also rember another time that my buddies and I went to SFA and as my buddy and & where waiting in the Two-Face line and got right up to the air gates and they let a whole bunch of Flash Pass holders board the train. And they didn't bother to open up the air gates to let the rest of us ride and we had to wait another cycle.

After we rode Two-Face we went to Guest relation and complane about the way they where running Two-face. I really want SFA to get rid of Flash pass. Because it dosen't work.

Rail Junkie

^^Did you visit CP in 2007? TTD went many days without any problems.

From the performance of TTD this season, I think many people have changed their opinion on the ride. It ran like it should have from day one. Yes, it's a little late, but the future looks bright.

^^Re: Flashpass - SFA's implementation doesn't work. However, remember that SFA runs the program differently (and WAY worse) than other parks. Among all the SF parks I've visited, only at SFA do they insist on running trains with empty seats when there aren't enough FP users to fill up the remaining seats.

Now that I *have* my lap on Ka (two actually, LOL, what an idiot I am)....I'll be going to Da Bull whenever I have some time at GAdv. I won't even need a "goodbye lap". ;)

MagnunBarrel said:

The problem with Ka and correct me if im wrong here, as compared to dragster is there is less capacity. Isn't it something like 4 trains to 6 on dragster.

If I'm not mistaken, because of the double parallel, double serial station on KK, it has the same, if not better capacity than TTD, even with less trains.

Hobbes: "What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do?"
Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."

Cedar Point claims 1500 pph, Great Adventure claims 1400pph.

And in reality neither one is anywhere close to those numbers.

I have not been to CP a

Rail Junkie

Rail Junkie, slow down when you're typing and spell check! Your post was a bit of a mess.

I would like to see some money put into infrastructure at SFA next year. Some paint on rides that really need it, and bathroom and dining facilities in lower Gotham City, etc.

Antuan said:
Yeah, but when the ropes are cut in the morning, guess where the crowds head en masse.

Also a good point. There are poor capacity coasters that generate huge wait times just because of the poor capacity, but there are other poor capacity coasters that generate huge wait times because they really are that popular with the patrons, but that is more rare than it is common. It all depends on many factors.

Like you mentioned, when the gates at Great Adventure open for the day, a very good number of those waiting to get in storm to Kingda Ka. Same said with X at Magic Mountain. Every park operating day, it is not uncommon to see hordes of people charge for the X queue entry at park opening. Two low capacity coasters that are undeniably popular with the crowds.

On the flipside, you never see mobs of people rushing to Deja Vu or The Chiller when park gates are opened.

I have to belive a large part of that is visibility and location. DV and Chiller are further and less visible from the parking lot than X, KK or TTD.

Hence, the enormous early morning line for Raptor.

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Hobbes: "What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do?"
Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."

^ Maybe everyone just likes green coasters?

:)

Just flat out wrong there. At SfGAm, when the chains dropped, more people would run to the Vu than any other ride. (Granted, we don't have X at our park).

Even more than the waterpark that keeps filling to capacity? Or is that a separate gate?

NOTE: Severe fecal impaction may render the above words highly debatable.

gomez said:
^^Did you visit CP in 2007? TTD went many days without any problems.
From the performance of TTD this season, I think many people have changed their opinion on the ride. It ran like it should have from day one. Yes, it's a little late, but the future looks bright.

Yes you are right. Working at Mantis all summer, through the woods we could here "Top Thrill Dragster is currently down..." and although it happened numerous times each day, we could always here trains launching again just minutes later. TTD is doing just fine.

Sale it to Cedar Point. Then they can build it crossing paths with Top Thrill Dragster and have Dueling Dragsters.

Oh who I kidding I have never stood in an hour long line for either ride and most likely never will.

Ride of Steel said:

Working at Mantis all summer, through the woods we could here "Top Thrill Dragster is currently down..." and although it happened numerous times each day, we could always here trains launching again just minutes later. TTD is doing just fine.

It sounds like Deja Vu. Oh my gosh, in 5 minutes or so the mechanics open the ride because the ride just misparked, and it only takes like 30 seconds to push back the train till where it should be located. I would be worried for both rides if you really like them. Kinzel doesn't like the ride at all, and think it was a waste of money.

Shapiro probably thinks the same way. So, I still believe that you should get on them while you still can. If Peter Pan at both Disney World, and Disneyland were in Shapiro's hands, I think those rides along with Roger Rabbit, Pinocchio, Snow White, and Pooh would all be gone.

One huge advantage I can see with KK over TTD is that if you have a problem, it's a lot easier to lose a train or just close down one side.

With TTD this summer, we sat down in one of the trains, and then we were told to get out of the train. After a five-minute or more wait for the maintenance guy to arrive, they had to move the trains in manual mode to get them to synch again.

Kevin Max said:
Just flat out wrong there. At SfGAm, when the chains dropped, more people would run to the Vu than any other ride. (Granted, we don't have X at our park).

I'd imagine Raging Bull would be that ride. I would highly doubt more than a handful of people would make a beeline for Deja Vu when the park gates open.

Again, wrong. People would run to DV for a few reasons:

1) Great ride

2) Slow line if you try to hit it in the middle of the day

3)Might be down later, get on it while you can.