Goliath absent from 2015 Guiness records.

Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:00 PM

I recently purchased the 2015 Guiness book of world records and Goliath is nowhere to be found. Steepest wood goes to Outlaw Run and tallest wood goes to El Toro.

My question is did Goliath not make the records because a late opening prevented Guiness from making it official or does Guiness not recognize Goliath for any records due to it pretty much being a hybrid?

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Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:33 PM

I would imagine it was a timing effort. Since outlaw run and Goliath are the same, they must recognize it.

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Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:33 PM

Goliath is basically a steel coaster as I understand it, in which case it doesn't break any records. Is that correct, or am I mistaken?

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Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:45 PM

Nope. Goliath is as much wood as Outlaw Run.

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Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:48 PM

Considering the lead time on print books is something like six months at least, I'm not surprised.

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Monday, September 15, 2014 2:29 PM

The steel rails and urethane wheels it uses are basically no different than Iron Rattler and NTG, The fact that wood laminates are under it, Really doesn't make it wood. There is no flex to this track.

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Monday, September 15, 2014 4:01 PM

Have you watched these rides run? There is certainly a lot of flex.

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Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:26 AM

Chuck have you actually seen one outside of pictures? On Goliath, there are no steel rails, it's a steel plate just like every other wooden coaster, it's jus wider.

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Thursday, September 18, 2014 3:30 AM

Chitown said:

I recently purchased the 2015 Guiness book of world records and Goliath is nowhere to be found. Steepest wood goes to Outlaw Run and tallest wood goes to El Toro.

My question is did Goliath not make the records because a late opening prevented Guiness from making it official or does Guiness not recognize Goliath for any records due to it pretty much being a hybrid?

Chitown, unless I miss my guess El Toro is still PHYSICALLY TALLER than Goliath. But Goliath has a longer drop since it goes underground. That might be why El Toro is listed but not Goliath.

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Sunday, September 21, 2014 9:13 AM

Colossus at Heide Park is bigger than El Toro.

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Sunday, September 21, 2014 4:09 PM

What I found most interesting in the roller coaster section of the 2015 book was the "most roller coasters in one country."

China: 824

USA: 653

Japan: 212

I mean, I know China is big, but I had no idea.

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Sunday, September 21, 2014 4:30 PM

"most roller coasters you'd actually like to ride in one country"

China: 0

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Sunday, September 21, 2014 4:51 PM

Almost 20% of the world's population is in China. It's a huge market for everything.

If I did the math correctly, it works out to 1 coaster for every 2,010,000 Chinese citizens, and 1 coaster for every 485,000 American citizens (numbers rounded). So a lot of markets still in need of coasters :-)

(And feel free to correct my math. It was never one of my strong subjects.)

Last edited by slithernoggin, Sunday, September 21, 2014 4:52 PM
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Sunday, September 21, 2014 5:58 PM

Just as a completely random exercise, I wonder what the roller coaster per $GDP works out to.

Edit: Fine, I'll do it. China's GDP is $9.24T which works out to $11.2B of GDP per roller coaster. America's GDP is $16.8 T which works out to $25.7B of GDP per roller coaster. I have no idea what to do with that data, but....um....."Take that, China!"

Last edited by ApolloAndy, Sunday, September 21, 2014 6:01 PM
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Sunday, September 21, 2014 6:14 PM

'Merica!

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Monday, September 22, 2014 3:19 PM

Welp, I tried to check the website, and they still list the Tower of Terror in Queensland as the tallest coaster, so that's not much help.

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Monday, September 22, 2014 4:01 PM

slithernoggin said:

Almost 20% of the world's population is in China. It's a huge market for everything.

Except birth control.

Jeff said:

'Merica

That reminded me of the theme song for Team America World Police. Thanks for that. :0)

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Monday, September 22, 2014 10:16 PM

AmandaT said:

Welp, I tried to check the website, and they still list the Tower of Terror in Queensland as the tallest coaster, so that's not much help.

Well there's all the proof you need right there... Superman: The Escape is not a coaster!

*ducks*

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