Goliath @ SFH and its Stengel Dive

Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:32 AM
I was just wondering 2 things:

1. How is the overall ride of Goliath and what are its +'s and -'s? This is the number 1 hyper that I want to ride by far.

2. What is the Stengel Dive like and do you think we can expect anymore sometime soon? It looks absolutely amazing.

Check this pic out though, it shows some of the highlights of the ride and how smooth it is: http://www.coastersandmore.de/Bilder/SFH/goliath.960x570.jpg



*** This post was edited by CoastinCorey 6/10/2003 3:34:51 PM ***

Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:41 AM
I don't think it's over 200 feet, if that's what you mean by hyper.

The reports I've read of it aren't good. I've heard it's boring. I don't know how that can be, as it also looks amazing to me.

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Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:51 AM
I heard it was good but not as good as SFNE's SROS. I think the ride looks like an incredible coaster packed with forces, but then again, so does Silver Star.
Tuesday, June 10, 2003 3:05 PM
I have read multiple reviews that say it packs almost as much of a punch as it's larger cousins. Complaints have centered around the fact that the first drop would be better if it was a little bigger, and that the upward helix is kind of weak. Other than that people say it is an excellent ride with lots of direction changes and some good air. I haven't read a single thing about it being boring.

Some reviews:




Tuesday, June 10, 2003 3:32 PM
i haven't heard anything but good reviews, and the ride really looks amazing.

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Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:12 PM
Yah, I didn't really think that it was possible for a ride like that to be boring. Thanks for everything guys! :)

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Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:00 AM
Hi, my name;s Michael and I live in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, about 45 minutes from Six Flags Holland. I've ridden Goliath many times, and it's far from boring, specially by European standards.

G! has some great air time, mainly on the bunny hops, but also on the large camel backs. The Stengel Dive is something quite extraordinairy and the experience is difficult to explain, but if you're sitting on the inside with your arms in the air, it's simply exhillerting!

The first helix is nicely intens, and the Buckel that follows the helix is great. The second helix and Buckel, could have been a bit faster, but the bunny hops and the last turn, before the brakes, make up for this.

Coaster enthousiasts in the Netherlands (and Europe) have been waiting for this kind of coaster a long time and I've haven't spoken to anybody who thought it was boring.

Extreme coasters are kind of hard to find in Europe, but the last few years we have been spoiled nicely with Goliath, Colossos (Heidepark, Germany), Expedition G Force (Holidaypark, Germany) and Silver Star (Europapark, Germany).

Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:31 AM
Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:39 AM

CoastinCorey said:
Yah, I didn't really think that it was possible for a ride like that to be boring.


It's very possible... ;)
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Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:45 AM

B├╝ckel. :)

Goliath is a nice ride. It's not great, it's not perfect, but if it's really hot, it is packed with action, and has massive airtime, even on the last bunny hops.

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Thursday, June 12, 2003 10:36 AM
It's not a hyper, but I would call it a Mini-Hyper, being around 150 feet high (like Sea World Texas's Steel Eel). When I rode it (last year), I thought it was very fun and one of the better coasters Europe had to offer.

Yes, the first drop is kind of short-lived (compared to the regular hypers) because it's shorter and steep (70 degrees) - making the trip to the ground even more shorter. The Stengel Dive is a neat gimmick that catches people off guard and almost feels like an inversion - giving a hard tilt to the right (seems like you are held nearly upside down for a split second - like Manhatten Express's weird inversion). The two helixes incorporate swift directional changes that were fun (it reminded me of Expedition GeForce's surprise sway from right to left). Of course, the last few hills were like the last few hills of Superman: ROSs, Exp GeForce - full of insane forceful airtime. I liked it and wish Intamin would send a clone of Goliath and Expedition GeForce to the States. . .
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