Going to Bush Gardens Willamsburg for the first ti

Wednesday, May 21, 2003 2:53 PM
What kind of advice can you peeps give me. What should I ride first? Whats a good time to arrive at the park? BTW I am going around June 20

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Wednesday, May 21, 2003 3:53 PM
As with any park, I'd get there as early as you can. I'd start with Escape From Pompeii, then Apollo's Chariot, Big Bad Wolf, Alpengeist, Wild Maus, and finally Loch Ness Monster. That way, you're traveling downhill most of the time instead of uphill.
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Wednesday, May 21, 2003 4:17 PM
Lets see...

Although I have only been there 3 times, ill try to help as best I can.

1) Try to arrive a.s.a.p. The sooner you arrive, the better chances are you can pop a few rides with low lines.

2) Hit Apollo first. I find that the lines for it are usually a little longer. Also, get a seat *As far back as possible!*. The front is VERY tame and boring(although very smooth and quiet), its hardly intense at all in the front. But if you ride in the back, you would think its a completely different ride...air on every hill!

3) Dont stress getting on BBW. I rode it my 2nd time going, and was extremely un-impressed. Keep in mind however that im a very big thrill seeker, and tend to steer away from the lesser scary rides. The worst thing about BBW is loading time...expect to wait in a very slow moving line.

4) Lochness Monster is a great ride, not too many comments here.

5) Alpengeist is alot of fun, and the lines are moderate. The longest I have ever waited was an hour, but I spent about 40 mins of that waiting for the front row. The front row que is almost always full, so expect to add another 40+ mins to your line if you want the front row. Keep in mind that it can be worth the wait, depending on your schedule.

6) Take plenty of time to walk around. Although it can get quite tiring, this park has alot of things hidden here and there, and you really need time to walk around the entire park. Most of the rides are also very spread out, so if you want to ride coaster after coaster, expect to get tired quickly.

7) If you like to shop, bring a little extra money than usual. BGW is a bit different than many parks, and has gift shops that offer things that you wont see any where else. Often times some of these shops dont resemble the park at all, but instead the country they are themed to.

8) Have fun and enjoy yourself! The park is great, and I hope you really like your visit.

Hope this helps, Matt.

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Thursday, May 22, 2003 2:25 AM

coasterdude04 said:
Lets see...

2) Hit Apollo first. Also, get a seat *As far back as possible!*. The front is VERY tame and boring(although very smooth and quiet), its hardly intense at all in the front. But if you ride in the back, you would think its a completely different ride...air on every hill!


I found Apollo to be totally opposite. The back for me was a big "YAWN" and towards the front to offer more air. I suggest trying both ends of the train.

Definitely take your time and enjoy the natural beauty this park has become famous for. Take in a few shows as they are top notch quality. "Imaginique", the park's night time show, returns this year and I believe it will be there when you go but it may sacrifice your night rides.

Alpengeist is great at night and is close to "Imaginique".

X Factor, who will be at BGW a week after your visit.

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Thursday, May 22, 2003 5:20 AM

coasterdude04 said:
3) Dont stress getting on BBW. I rode it my 2nd time going, and was extremely un-impressed. Keep in mind however that im a very big thrill seeker, and tend to steer away from the lesser scary rides. The worst thing about BBW is loading time...expect to wait in a very slow moving line.
The line definitely sucks for BBW, but I urge you to brave the wait, if only for a back seat ride. There's nothing tame about the latter half of this ride in the back seat.

5) Alpengeist is alot of fun, and the lines are moderate. The longest I have ever waited was an hour, but I spent about 40 mins of that waiting for the front row. The front row que is almost always full, so expect to add another 40+ mins to your line if you want the front row. Keep in mind that it can be worth the wait, depending on your schedule.
Definitely good advice. The front is awesome on this ride. I refuse to ride any invert in a seat other than the front, if I can help it, and it's absolutely worth the wait on Alpengeist.

As for Apollo, it's no Alpie, but it's worth a ride or two. I like the front, but the back gave me ejector air on the first drop that I will never forget (I almost fell out). Try both if you have time.

As for the rest of the park, make sure to hit Loch Ness, Wild Maus, Escape From Pompeii, and Corkscrew Hill. I also suggest taking the train (Alpen Express) for a ride around the park. If you board from the Festa Italia station, it will take you behind the old Drachen Fire site where you can see the station and train house still standing (anyone know if the trains are still there?).

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Thursday, May 22, 2003 6:20 PM
I agree with most of what others have said, and would add the following...
l. Nearby hotels offer packages at significant savings. We basically got free admission to BGW last July by staying at a hotel two miles down the four lane boulevard. We paid $90 for a room for three and that included three BGW tickets. Most of these deals are linked to weeknight stays.
2. We always enjoy eating lunch at the Festhaus, way up on the hill.
3. We've seen a lot of shows at various parks around the country, but we felt the Wolf and Riverdance experiences were definitely worth the time.
4. The train is impressive. One of my little diversions on our many coastering trips is checking out the amusement park trains. I'm a lifetime railroad enthusiast, both real and model. My nationwide top train list includes Disney, PKI, Cedar Point and BGW. Take a minute to inspect that engine. They have really done a magnificent maintenance job on it.
5. Ride the skylift. You get great views. I have photos on display of BGW's coasters taken from that skylift which are better than anything you could get from the ground no matter where you stood.
6. Their boat plunge is one of the best anywhere.
7. We think the Italian restaurant is great for dinner.
8. Their auto ride is one of the more scenic you'll find, as it winds around down through the woods in hilly terrain.
9. Check out the Clydesdale horses in their stables. You have to get up next to them to appreciate how big they are.
*** This post was edited by Trekker Park 5/22/2003 10:23:01 PM ***
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Thursday, May 22, 2003 6:29 PM
How about just have fun at one of the most beautiful parks in the world. And don't ever call me a peep or I'll call you poop.

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Thursday, May 22, 2003 7:05 PM
X Factor: Im not sure when you rode it, or what the conditions were, but I tried the front once, and didnt like it so much. But then I waited again in the front row que for another 30 mins, and even used a trick to get more space with me and the lap bar, but still turned up the same results.

But it never fails for me that always in the back, after you crest the top of the hill and start going downward, the weight of the front of the train pulls the back and the result is some amazing negative g's.

Like X Factor said, try both ends to see what you like. The front is fun, dont misunderstand me, but I think the front fails to deliver air as compared to the back.

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Thursday, May 22, 2003 7:09 PM
Speaking of trips to BGW, I haven't been there since July 1993! I am long over due for a visit and can't believe it's been 10 years already.

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Friday, May 23, 2003 5:40 AM
While I would still recommend a quick ride on Apollo at opening, it takes some time to warm up to its best speed, so go back later for a more intense ride.

Also, as previously mentioned, don't miss the shows. They are the best on the east coast north of Orlando/

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Friday, May 23, 2003 12:13 PM
All I can say is to wait for Alpy in the front row. Its 10 times better in the front.

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Friday, May 23, 2003 7:59 PM
Yeah, AC is at least 20 times better near the back, and it does have air on every hill there, but only 1 time of flojector air. Don't expect big things from this coaster, but it is a great ride. Just tame.

Nessie is open before the other coasters, so I would hit that first, but then Alpi, which is a sweet ride, but now with trim brakes.

BBw hurts, but fun ride.
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Friday, May 23, 2003 9:40 PM
When I was there, Nessie was running 30 minutes before they opened the rest of the park. I don't see the fascination with this ride, I've been on worse but it just didn't do it for me. But the next time I'm there, I'll ride it as many times as I can before they open Alpie.

Alpies lines were so short I think we all overdosed on G's.

At least once during the day, wait for a front seat on AC, then wait for a back seat. For me it didn't matter, the shortest line always had the best seat!

BBW was neat but you could ride Alpie then walk over and ride AC in the time it took just to get through the line.

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Saturday, May 24, 2003 12:59 AM
I would also get there as early as you can, and PLEASE get a map!

BGW is kind of confusing to navigate at times, especially for a first-timer. You will see what I am talking about.

Take Apollo's Chariot for example. It's the first coaster you see once you are entering the park. You assume that the entrance is going to be near the front until you find out that it is actually halfway back, in the "Italy" section if I am not mistaken.

The park is absolutely charming, and very beautiful. I LOVE Busch Gardens. All the coasters are kickass. I can't wait to visit again for Coaster Con!

-Tina

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*** This post was edited by coasterqueenTRN 5/24/2003 5:00:31 AM ***

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Saturday, May 24, 2003 10:16 AM
I just got back from there and tried to get to Apollo's Chariot first, however, they did not open that part of the park until 30 minutes after the park actually opened. Instead, my wife and I walked around the opposite way through Ireland and France and into where Alpengeist was. We were the first ride of the day and rode the front car in a train that was otherwise empty.

Alpy and Apollo are the best in the park. None of the coaseters dissappoint however. This is one beautiful park. One more thing, do not pass up Corkscrew Hill if possible. It was a pleasent surprise. R.L. Stine's Haunted Lighthouse on the other hand, well, lets just say that you shouldn't go out of your way to see it.

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