Gemini's Long Lost Cousin?

Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:01 PM
I was looking through some pictures, and I realized that Excalibur at Valleyfair! and Gemini are similar coasters.  Both share wooden structure, tubular steel track, and the same trains (different colors obviously).  Anyone been on this ride?  Looks like a truly awesome first drop! :D
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Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:08 PM
They are both Arrow minetrains so their structures look alike. I love Gemini and could ride it all day, but I found Excalibur to be very painful and hard to enjoy. This was a few years ago; is it any better lately?
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Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:21 PM
Excaliber was a interesting ride that really surprised me with one particular moment.  It had a point of GREAT airtime with laterals similar to the "non inverting corkscrew" found on SFA's and SFDL's Supermen. Here's some pics: http://www.coastergallery.com/2000T/valleyfair.html
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Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:05 PM
Excalibur is one of the wildest, most intense coasters I have ever ridden.  The first drop has been ruined with thrims the whole way down, but the rest of the ride is full of great forces and two spots of *insane* airtime.  It can definitely be a painful ride if you don't know how (and when) to brace yourself, but I could ride it all day; it's my favorite Arrow coaster.  Too bad it's so darned short!

-Nate

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Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:49 PM
I'd actually count Excalibur as more of a close brother and say the Arrow Mine trains are the cousins though they all are very closely related designs.
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Wednesday, January 30, 2002 6:44 PM
In the front seat, you are literally within several feet of the bottom of the first drop before the brakes finally let go, ruining the whole drop.  However, you still generate quite a bit of speed through the rest of the ride.

The ride is almost unbearable rough if you ride in the last row of any car (3 rows), but it is much smoother in the front row of each car.   The best seat by far is the first row of the last car, which is where you get some good air and good laterals.   The ride is short but intense and is quite fun.   It is also located in the back of the park which is out of the way and hard to get to, so the ride is often a walk-on.  Even on weekends, you can usually get 10 rerides an hour if you so desired.

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Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:52 PM

Skittlebrau hit the nail on the head.

My biggest complaint about it, however, is that it's too short.

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Thursday, January 31, 2002 3:29 AM
Thanks for the tips guys.   I hear a bunch of Whining about VF but I am going to hit it the week of Timbersfest and judge for myself.

Chuck, who also is hitting Fun Spot, Dells, SFGAM, VF and IB that week :)

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Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:06 AM
As far as I know, Excaliber and Gemini are the only two coasters of their type built by Arrow- steel on wood but with normal coaster elements instead of mine train elements.  I believe the trains are of the same design.
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Thursday, January 31, 2002 2:20 PM
I believe Rob is correct. I love Excalibur's "toothpick" look. Charles, you have a fun-filled week ahead of you! Enjoy the Hoosier state. :)
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Thursday, January 31, 2002 2:24 PM
Was Excalibur the ride that was partially under water earlier last season because of flooding?

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Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:57 PM
Yes it was.
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Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:04 PM
Yeah, I went to look at the news item, but the picture isn't there any more. It was a very odd site to behold...

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Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:06 PM
I was like, "That is one really weird looking log flume"...
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Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:59 PM
Personally, I find the ride horrible, I've been on it many times... and would rather go on A head banging SLC all day, than that. Its basically A Steep Figure Eight with an 210ยบ Helix. then the brakes

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Thursday, January 31, 2002 6:00 PM
It Should have stayed under the water...

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Friday, February 1, 2002 6:59 AM
Excalibur is probably the most intense coaster I've ever riddden, but it is way too short.  XFlighter hit the nail right on the head.
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Sunday, February 3, 2002 6:58 PM
Call me nuts, but I actually found Excalibur very enjoyable, in the back seat offering nice airtime, and an intense fantastic feeling through the helixes. I actually feel as if its a better coaster then Gemini and Rock and Roller Coaster.  Its a great coaster and I hope to be working on this beautiful coaster come this summer.
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Monday, February 4, 2002 4:54 PM
It was an early experiment for Buzzsaw Falls!
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