I don't see the problem. It's a buck. It is what it is.
I'm the type of person that will pay $4 for "preferred" parking at KW when "standard" parking is free. I usually pay the $11 for preferred at PKI vs the $9 for "regular" parking. I don't see a buck or two as anything major and it represents a very small percentage of the money I will be spending over the course of the day.
I don't think $9 is out of line compared to the industry either. I'd say it's par for the course for the larger chain parks.
So now a trip to GL will cost $1 more per visit. Consider a family of 4 spending the day purchasing tickets, food, games, etc and that cost is irrelevant to the visitor but probably makes a nice little profit boost for the park.
Jeff, the intelligent folks parked at SFWoA on the Wildlife side :) I never had a parking problem till they closed down the Wildlife parking lot in the fall, but it still was never a real problem.
As for now, is there even a parking problem with the poor attendance?
*** Edited 9/12/2004 4:04:14 PM UTC by midwave***
Gonch: Whaddaya mean look like one? Wait, I take that back. Let's be theme park buddies! It's just my lunch...and swim trunks...and souvenirs...and extra room. How much more is it, really?
PFF: VF raised the WWC locker rental price $2 the week after Memorial Day, too. So a little mid-season hikey-hike here is nothing new.
But now we know who's fraida water...... ;)
-CO
*** Edited 9/12/2004 4:33:20 PM UTC by CoastaPlaya***
NOTE: Severe fecal impaction may render the above words highly debatable.
Just don't get caught parking your car at the shopping center across the street from Geauga Lake......;-)
-Tina
IBsteve said:
Jeff, I know what you're trying to say but if we need people telling us where to park in a marked parking lot, well, that's just sad. And not worth an extra buck, IMO.
That's the problem...it is sad that you need someone to tell people where to park. I work in parking at Magic Kingdom at WDW and you wouldn't believe the types of crap people do. We make it so easy...just follow the car in front of you, but when they get to where they are supposed to park, they lose their minds. That's why for busy parks they need people to direct traffic other wise there wouldnt be enough spaces for everyone (due to people double parking, parking the wrong way, etc).
And to think, they drove all these miles to get to the theme park and they act like they cant function when they get in the parking lot. I could tell you some stories...
...and such
It was annoying but sort of funny at the same time.
-Tina
And what I can't understand is this: We, as enthusiasts, pay full price for a trip to the park how often? You guys know as well as I do that we stive to find as many discounts we can when we go to parks, so who actually pays full price for entrance anyhow? And yet you complain about parking going up an extra buck when you can easily save $8 getting in just by printing out a coupon on their website, or requesting a brochure with one in it from the park...
On my trip in August, I stayed on site, so I didn't have to pay for parking, but I had my $8 coupon to get in. I spent less than $30 for a day @ the park. That includes all my drinks and food...
Thats called being smart, and not being cheap. I didn't go out of my way to be cheap, but found a good deal for $8, and had I payed to park, I would have payed the same amt. to get in for both parking and admission. *** Edited 9/12/2004 7:56:12 PM UTC by TeknoScorpion***
It's a buck.
There were near riots when Cedar Point took their Pepsi vending to $3. The park responded and the price dropped. People didn't pay $3 for a Pepsi because there were other options and it isn't required. If they raise cotton candy prices too much, sales will drop. If they increase the cost of whack-a-mole to $8/game, no one's going to play. They could start charging for Freeway and I wouldn't care (though I might question if it's a smart move). I'm all for letting the public dictate the price.
Parking is different. There are no other options for parking. If you want to go to the park, you have to pay. It's a creative way to increase profit. Why not charge a $5 "exit fee" to leave the parking lot at night?
Both the local community and enthusiasts stood up for Cedar Point when they battled the city of Sandusky on the parking tax issue. The city gave up and Cedar Point won. But this makes it hard to feel sorry for them.
Of course, 99% will gripe ... and then they will pay the extra $1. It's quite a racket, actually. Kudos to capitalism. But at some point, it's just too much. Especially when a park like Cedar Point takes down row markers and still expects you to find your car at night. :)
If I was a business owner, I could use the "it's a just a buck" philosophy to increase prices all over the place. Fortunately, it's not that simple.
*** Edited 9/12/2004 9:38:58 PM UTC by Gemini***
Walt Schmidt - Co-Publisher, PointBuzz
Just kidding. It is "just" a buck, and to me that is part of the problem - I can get to feel like I'm being nickle-and-dimed before I even enter the damn place. I think it was Rideman who has argued in the past for parks to instead roll increases into their admission, and keep parking prices low. Of course, that might not save anyone any actual money, but it can affect the perception. And perception can be reality, even in a "free" market ...
you socialist you
As a proud conservative, I don't appreciate the insult. ;)
Walt Schmidt - Co-Publisher, PointBuzz
I personally try to avoid the parking fees altogether. No, not illegally, but by playing it smart. For my local park, SFGAm, I have the parking sticker. After last season, we realized that it paid for itself after a few visits. And the parking people at SFA did not know what it was, and let us park for free using the other park's sticker. Yeah!
At PKI, I camped onsite and walked to the park. At CP, I stay in the cottages (and the reservations desk refunds your parking fees and your guests), and at PKD, I stayed at the hotel across the street from the park. At Kennywood, we parked for free just to check the place out. The next day, we sucked it up though and paid the $4 preferred rate (we pampered ourselves that day :). Sometimes it works out like that (although I paid at GL, BGW, and WoF this summer).
BTW, is anyone concerned about the beer consumed at Octoberfest, and then the overcharged parkers driving home afterwards? I thought at first that the GL parking fee increase may have been instituted to keep less people driving to the park, and increasing more of a designated driver/carpool strategy. I guess that is only my wishful thinking on that subject.
So I am thinking now that for me to go to GL again next year, and especially for Octoberfest, my CP season pass will have to be accepted, and they will put the CP and (soon to be) WoF cottages there as well. Then I can avoid the ticket prices, parking prices, and drunk drivers. I've got my wish list in place now. And if my wishes come true, I am sure everyone will be paying $2 more for parking. Sorry :(
*** Edited 9/13/2004 12:50:01 AM UTC by ltlbat***
just to think of the dollar increase...they probably raised it to cover that extra dollar the promised to the employees who completed their contracts for working the whole summer...they get an extra buck for every hour they worked. *** Edited 9/13/2004 1:10:45 AM UTC by CP Boy***
Gemini said:
It's a buck.There were near riots when Cedar Point took their Pepsi vending to $3. i***
Please tell me you were joking with that statement Walt. While 3 dollars is expensive for a soda, if you go to any entertainment venue, you will find prices at or near that.
SFGAm also charges $3 for a vending machine soda, but I haven't seen anarchy yet. :) Most people simply bypass the machines and either get water or pay $3 for a cup of soda (go figure).
My favorite MJ tune: "Billie Jean" which I have been listening to alot now. RIP MJ.
You go to fill up your tank with gas on your car and see constant price changes on almost a daily basis.
You know you are stuck paying it regardless. Same applies to the parking fees. You made the trek to the park and notice the parking fee increase. Is a buck going to make you do a 180 and leave?
My favorite MJ tune: "Billie Jean" which I have been listening to alot now. RIP MJ.
Jeff - Editor - CoasterBuzz.com - My Blog
I will keep Clint's idea in mind the next time I visit Geauga.
Seriously though, who REALLY thinks about parking prices when they enter a park, especially Cedar Point? It's the last thing on my mind. :-)
-Tina
*** Edited 9/13/2004 8:43:05 AM UTC by coasterqueenTRN***
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