Geauaga Lake passes, swim lessons, etc.

Friday, April 4, 2008 12:08 PM
Interim General Manager?

Does that mean Colleen isn't sticking around?

Given the success of the waterpark(s), while the rest of Geauga Lake failed miserably proves that she is the right person to run WIldwater Kingdom. Hopefully she sticks around and WWK maintains its quality. As far as I know, the lifeguards there are among the best in the country! I think that is extremely important. Anyone here that can verify my claim? (Does Ellis do rankings that are posted publicly?)

Also, Geauga Lake is dead. Wildwater Kingdom is what is left. For some reason it annoys me when people refer to WWK as Geauga Lake.

-Sam

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Friday, April 4, 2008 12:22 PM
^Then you should lodge a complaint with Cedar Fair. They're the ones who have named it "Geauga Lake's Wildwater Kingdom".

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Friday, April 4, 2008 12:32 PM
Gator Schlitterbahn draws guests from Ohio too :).

Schlitterbahn is a special example, like Cedar Point a lot of people around the country have a vague idea of what it is (oh that park with "big" uphill waterslide!) So a sizable minority of folks come from way out of town to go there.


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Friday, April 4, 2008 12:39 PM
john peck's avatar Well, 119 years ago, people came to Geauga Lake to swim and have a picnic. Funny how things go full-circle.

I wonder what would have happened if they decided to not build a new waterpark and kept the decent one they had. Would a smaller Geauga Lake Park have stayed open?

Man, this still REALLY Hurts. I haven't cried yet, because I know a thing or two about business, but still.

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Friday, April 4, 2008 12:44 PM
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john peck said:
Would a smaller Geauga Lake Park have stayed open?

My guess? Quite possibly.

But that has nothing to do with CF and everything to do with SF.

I still think it's kind of funny how everyone blames CF. I'm still of the mindset that their only crime was being the ones stuck holding the mess when it came time to pull the plug.


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Friday, April 4, 2008 1:54 PM
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john peck said:
Would a smaller Geauga Lake Park have stayed open?

Maybe, but wouldn't we just hear,


All they are doing is removing stuff, why aren't they adding anything new?

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Friday, April 4, 2008 3:47 PM

Lord Gonchar said:


My guess? Quite possibly.

But that has nothing to do with CF and everything to do with SF.

I still think it's kind of funny how everyone blames CF. I'm still of the mindset that their only crime was being the ones stuck holding the mess when it came time to pull the plug.


But why not blame Cedar Fair? Six Flags wasn't the company that decided to abandon a perfectly-decent waterpark on the rides side and invest millions in a new one across the lake. Why not have sold off the Sea World side of the property and create a smaller, more efficient combination park with what existed?

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Friday, April 4, 2008 4:05 PM
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Rob Ascough said:
But why not blame Cedar Fair? Six Flags wasn't the company that decided to abandon a perfectly-decent waterpark on the rides side and invest millions in a new one across the lake. Why not have sold off the Sea World side of the property and create a smaller, more efficient combination park with what existed?

I liken that to prosecuting the doctor who couldn't save the gunshot victim instead of the shooter.


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Friday, April 4, 2008 4:14 PM
That makes no sense. Six Flags didn't move the waterpark, Cedar Fair did. That could have been the bullet that claimed the park's life, and Cedar Fair was clearly holding the gun. Six Flags had already skipped town.
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Friday, April 4, 2008 4:24 PM
Lord Gonchar's avatar So if CF hadn't bought the park, SF would have kept operating it?

That's a nice thought, but we both know it isn't true.


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Friday, April 4, 2008 4:38 PM
Sam,

A familiar name may soon be attached to WWK and if that does in fact become reality then all bets are off as to what happens to the place.

I do agree with Jeff that the pricing is suprisingly positive for Cedar Fair and I think there will be a lot of season passes sold. Swim lessons are a good idea as well.

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Friday, April 4, 2008 4:50 PM
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Rob Ascough said:
Six Flags wasn't the company that decided to abandon a perfectly-decent waterpark on the rides side and invest millions in a new one across the lake. Why not have sold off the Sea World side of the property and create a smaller, more efficient combination park with what existed?
That water park sucked. There was nowhere to walk, and nowhere to expand it to. Where were they supposed to put a tornado slide or the play area or, you know, places to just hang out and sun bathe?

Your idea of the "smaller park" wouldn't have been small enough. It was still too big. The 2000 expansion, plus X-Flight in 2001, was a bad move. Someone asked how Six Flags was doing just fine for the prior five years before the rebranding. Well, there's your answer. Five new coasters in two years.


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Friday, April 4, 2008 11:07 PM
^Chimelong knows what your saying Jeff, they know that the magic number is 8 coasters in 2 years ;)

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Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:29 AM
I cough up $60 a season for a single wavepool and a grand total four slides (of which perhaps two don't suck) and I'm happy to do it.

So I don't think the pricing is off. I think the swimming and lifeguard lessons are a great idea, too.

Will it survive in the shadow of the former GL? I can't answer that...

-'Playa


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Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:35 AM
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Jeff said:
There was nowhere to walk, and nowhere to expand it to. Where were they supposed to put a tornado slide or the play area or, you know, places to just hang out and sun bathe?

I thought there was already play area down in the area along the lake when CF took over. It was removed when they put the picnic shelters in. I could be wrong, however.


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Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:53 AM
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Lord Gonchar said:
So if CF hadn't bought the park, SF would have kept operating it?

That's a nice thought, but we both know it isn't true.


If they closed Astroworld they would have closed GL.

Rob's point about moving the water park is interesting, they could have expanded out towards the main midway if they would have removed some older rides there but we know how that would have went. :)


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Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:10 PM
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CoastaPlaya said:


Will it survive in the shadow of the former GL? I can't answer that...


I think that's the biggest question.

Is it a nice waterpark? No doubt.

Is the price point reasonable? Absolutely.

Will people attend this in the shadow of Geauga? Maybe?

We see what happened with the rebranding back to Geauga Lake in the first place. It had a reasonable gate and some stellar attractions. People didn't seem to care. I fear that this will just be multiplied without any rides at all.

We'll see. It's a big shadow. Waterparks are no fun without the sun.


Hi

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Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:01 PM
Jeff's avatar Wait, the park was a good deal and it had great attractions? I thought they were trying to close it on purpose. That's what I heard.

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Friday, April 11, 2008 12:27 AM
I can't believe people have differing opinions on this site! Who'da thunk it?

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