GCI Confirms Millennium Flyer Trains for Hershey's Wildcat

Last time I rode Wildcat, this past summer...it as pretty damn rough...I'm glad that the ride is getting the MFlyers...can't wait!

I don't think anyone has asked since this announcement...

Will it count as another credit? ;)

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rollergator said:
^^BGA runs twleve months a year, and has truly *substandard* wood-coaster maintenance. SFA honestly does a better job, IMO, of "routine maintenance".

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Most coasters only run 3 maybe 4 months a year. Gwazi since it runs year round ages 3 or 4 park seasons every actual year making alot older then it actually is. Gwazi opened in mid 99 so it's been running 8+ years, year round or close to 96 months or 24 park seasons . Take Roar at SFA opening in 98 a year before Gwazi. SFA is open on average 4 months per year or 36 months. Hopefully that makes sense.

When I rode Gwazi in 05 I thought it wasn't any worse off then Twister or Wildcat or even The Legend.

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Jeff said:
Strong laterals suck in the Gerstlauers. On something like The Villain I don't think it matters, but they were not good on The Legend at all.

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To each their own :)

Maybe I'm alone with Jeff but I find ANY laterals uncomfortable with Gerstlauers. Even the Villian is somewhat painful, and it's not just the poor sections of track. That said, I think the basic design of the train is good, it's just the lap bar arrangement that turns me off to them.

As many already know, I'm not a big fan of the MF trains for one reason--the stupid lapbars. For a thin person such as myself, it forces you to ride defensively or the lapbar is "eating" into your stomach the whole ride, as they're rather heavy once they've fallen.

I made out okay on Kentucky Rumbler last year two out of three rides, but I had to use my hands to push back against the lapbar on those two rides. The third ride using the same technique I was not sucessful, and on one of the reversals, it "got" me.

I can almost guarantee you on Wildcat that it'll take about five-seconds (if that) once off the lift before that lapbar will have stapled me due to all the crazy changes in direction.

I'll definitely give it a chance, and for HP it means that maybe they can take down the "lawyer-sign" out in front of the ride once and for all.

It was nice getting to see some parts of those trains at the GCI headquarters.

I can't imagine ANYTHING being more deserving to the Wildcat than Flyer trains.

I like. :)

-Tina

^Wouldn't it simply be a matter of tighter return springs I-Fan? So long as the trains are relatively new & havn't been broken in such problems should be kept to a minimum but alas with time <and worn springs> the bars simply won't be able to hold their position as well,which is typical for just about any non pnuematic restraint system aside from OTSR's.

The problem with the G-trains appears to be the bar itself.It seems they borrowed too heavily from the design Arrow had used on their mine trains & hypers....sure Magnum delivers a smooth ride<about as smooth as possible for an Arrow it's age> but you have to take into account all of the extra movement that woodies<even out & backs> are quite famous for when applying a restraint configuration that's been generally used on steel rides for use on a wooden one.

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Intamin Fan said:
As many already know, I'm not a big fan of the MF trains for one reason--the stupid lapbars. For a thin person such as myself, it forces you to ride defensively or the lapbar is "eating" into your stomach the whole ride, as they're rather heavy once they've fallen.

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I didn't have any trouble with Lightning Racer's lap bars last year, but I've had the PTC lap bars on both Wildcat and Twister fall down tighter than I wanted. Not all of them though, just certain cars were particularly loose. (No, I don't try to keep them super-high, just a notch above stapled.) Maybe I just was lucky enough to get good ones on LR, I don't know.

^^^^ Second helpings for Intamin Fan at the buffet!

(edit: added two more of these things-> ^^) *** Edited 2/6/2007 10:45:22 PM UTC by RatherGoodBear***

I'm not thin and I often get pinched by the MF T-bars. Usually my massive legs keep the PTC bars from "getting" me. That obviously doesn't work for a T-bar though. ;)

The lack of return springs is my one single complaint with GCII's Millennium Flyers. I don't like the bar dropping into my lap during the ride. Not sure why return springs are absent when they're present on most PTCs with ratcheting lap bars.

^ I got a good GUESS as to why....it involves maximizing safety and reducing insurance premiums/liability. I said it was a guess... ;)

Indeed. Don't the B&M hypers work the same way?

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Jeff said:
Indeed. Don't the B&M hypers work the same way?

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I am fairly sure they do.

I don't have the "pinching" problem with the B&M restraints. Actually no matter how tight the B&M bar gets, I always have a sense that I could slip out of it. I think that's because it rests more on my legs than against my waist, so it "feels" less secure, but it's doing its job just in a different way. Always gives me a little extra thrill on the occasional moment of strong airtime. Anyone else feel that way?

Wildcat will be an even better ride then it already is with adding MF's. Glad to see those few years of rumors have finally come true.

B&M's technically work the same way but they just feel different. I never feel like they're dropping into my lap...

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RatherGoodBear said:
^^^^ Second helpings for Intamin Fan at the buffet!

(edit: added two more of these things-> ^^) *** Edited 2/6/2007 10:45:22 PM UTC by RatherGoodBear***

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No he just likes that intamin staple once the bar comes down it is not going anywhere.

No, I'm not crazy about the Intamin staple either (unless I'm on El Toro again), but it generally doesn't feel as bad as the GCI lapbar due to where it makes contact.

As far as the B&M lapbar, I absolutely love it. For me at least, it comes down and kind of floats above my waist just enough that I'm scared I'm going to be dropped out of my seat on the left-overbanked turn on Nitro.