Gay couple asked to reverse "marriage is so gay" shirt at Dollywood

We are the borg... you will be assimilated... Wear your red or rainbow shirt and step forward through the gates of Dollywood... Resistance is futile.

CoasterDemon said:
We are not one huge person, or a bunch will all the same thoughts.

And that applies to humans in general, not just certain segments of humans (like gay humans).

Which is why some of don't care who you love and make love to. :)

Unfortunately, others might.

Regardless, there's a great set of rules or guidelines that apply to situations and being a certain type of human or wanting to display pride in being a certain kind of person or wanting to force other people to think about certain kinds of people (and that applies to any way you can categorize - not just gays) still needs to follow greater standards in specific situations.

The shirt in question didn't.

Lord Gonchar said:

Which is why some of don't care who you love and make love to. :)

Even if I never love a man or make love, I'm still gay. Gay gay gay gay gay :) Just a little point I like to make.

Then by that definition, I'm as gay as they come. :)

I wonder if that means my marriage isn't legal?

I have a fuzzy idea my point was missed ;)

Smoke329 said:
Their yard their rules. IT IS THAT SIMPLE.

Actually, no, it's not that simple, even if you type it in all caps. Today there are very real consequences for discriminating against any "protected class," though the inclusion of people by sexual orientation is not included for all circumstances... yet. Those consequences range from violating federal law to opening yourself up to civil lawsuits. We've seen it in this industry already with regard to race, religion and physical disability.

Regardless of the law or rules, people deserve basic human respect. Implying they aren't family violates that principle.

^Good point, Jeff :)

I'm finding this similar to the Dorney discrimination thing of last week. If everyone sits down and talks about it, then perhaps things can be resolved and stuff is commonly learned.

People just want to be heard. When it comes to minorities or special folks, sometimes there is a disruption; I think b/c it's sometimes the only way to get noticed, perhaps to make a point. Everyone feels it may be right or wrong, or a million places in-between.

Lord Gonchar said:
Then by that definition, I'm as gay as they come. :)

I wonder if that means my marriage isn't legal?

Judging by your current picture I'd say you're not gay - The one by the Rollercoaster Tycoon pinball machine... well, maybe :-)

Demon is right though - I've been very celibate lately - enjoy riding a cycle, get my hands dirty in the garage, all very stereotypical hetero things. Doesn't change the fact I'm queer as a 3 dollar bill.

^I would have to say that the whole gaydar/judge a book by it's cover thing has been blown way off. I see men (and women) that I think are glbt but are totally heterosexual and vice versa. See, there really is room for everyone ;)

Now of course, we have the bears, twinks, hipsters, trendies, yuppies, AnF types, sportos, queens, turbo f*gs; bull daggers, lipsticks, etc. The funny thing is, especially the self proclaimed 'straight acting' ones (how self hating is that?!), act like they are so special and rare - are the ones my gaydar goes off the radar. I mean, really!? Ok, getting off topic.

Today I learned you can get AIDS from a swimming pool. Thanks for that link, Jay. LOL.

^Do share that link, please :)

"That's what we found so offensive — that he said it was a family park," Tipton said. "Families come in a wide range of definitions these days and we were with our family."

Once she reversed the shirt, she was able to enter the park with her partner and her family. From what we know, she was able to enjoy the parks attractions, rides, shows, etc. and eat and drink where she wanted with her partner and her family. Presumably she was able to hold hands with her partner, walk arm in arm, kiss in line, etc. like other couples in the park.

So the "family park," once the shirt was reversed, let her and her partner and their family in the park to enjoy the day just like their other guests. If there really was some legitimate complaint that the park didn't view them as an appropriate family for the park, wouldn't the park have barred them from the park or barred them from PDAs on the midway? The complaint of the park not being sufficiently inclusive goes to the t-shirt not the couple. She walks up to the gate in a plain shirt with her partner and her family and she is granted access to the family park with no issues. Why not try a different shirt with a message like "Marriage is for everyone" or "Equal marriage rights for all."

In the end, their complaint is that they can't get married. But that isn't the doing of the park. And the park is doing nothing that discriminates against same sex couples who can't get married (mainly because parks don't care if folks are married or not). Why not focus on the areas of society where not being able to get married actually matters?

CoasterDemon said:
^Do share that link, please :)

It's in the comments in the story Jerry posted. Someone swears that you can get AIDS in the waterpark on gay day. Says it happened to 8 women last year.

Lord Gonchar said:
Interestingly, I don't wear a wedding ring. Never have. Should probably start though. I bet I'd get more chicks....and dudes. :)

How tall does one gotta be to ride this ride??

When at HWN this year, my better half said "Holy crap, there's more family here than married folks.."

He got a kick out of it, especially when I told him of the 3 bearish guys pooling their money to buy Bob Koch for a half hour on the coaster of their choice.

Jerry said:
Judging by your current picture I'd say you're not gay...

Never hurts to try.

Or maybe it does. ;)

(invoking the spirit of Moosh)

LostKause said:
Gays are just the exact people that Jesus would be best friends with.

I don't know, LK. Isn't that kind of assuming that all gay people have exactly the same personality and behavior? Just like all people, you have good and bad, honest and dishonest, generous and selfish, kind and nasty, and so on. Not all of them would be JC's best friends, and it would have nothing to do with sexual orientation.

Raven-Phile said:
It's in the comments in the story Jerry posted. Someone swears that you can get AIDS in the waterpark on gay day. Says it happened to 8 women last year.

That's just a sub-human legend... ;)

You are absolutely correct, RGB. But let me tell of my views on the subject and why I said that...

It has been my position almost all my life that the only thing that makes being gay a sin is that gay people are having love-making sessions with each other without really loving each other. Maybe it is not sinful to make love with someone of the same sex if it is someone that you love, or are married to.

This is all just my opinion.

I'll go on... Throughout my life, I have noticed that casual sex is a big thing for many gays, just like it is for many straight people. I believe that once gay people are allowed to get married, and it becomes an acceptable way of life, we may see a lot less "sinning". A lot of gays will fall into the same life-partner ways that a lot of straight people do.

Then, when religious leaders want to make a big deal of things, they can just target the act of being overly slutty with each other instead of picking out gay people.

Let me reiterate that this is just my personal opinion.

As far as Jesus being best friends with gay people, I was more saying that he is well known to be best friends with people who struggle with sinning, like a lot of gay people do (but not all gay people). Because some gays feel that they have to stay in the closet, they may find it difficult to find a long-term "life-partner". Sometimes people in that situation turn to casual sex, because of loneliness, which may possibly be considered sinful.

Not saying that I've never sinned before, because I have probably been one of those guys that Big J would be besties with at one time or another. ;)

^Very well put, young man :)

I sometimes wonder how much of 'sexually always open' crowd really want to be doing that and how many are doing it as a sort of acting out/not knowing different/clinically compulsive, or just kinda lost. It's a sad thing (and makes it damn hard to find a compatible man, speaking for myself). It's especially head spinning to have a huge bath houses in the middle of the city, while crying out for marriage rights.

RatherGoodBear said:

LostKause said:
Gays are just the exact people that Jesus would be best friends with.

I don't know, LK. Isn't that kind of assuming that all gay people have exactly the same personality and behavior? Just like all people, you have good and bad, honest and dishonest, generous and selfish, kind and nasty, and so on. Not all of them would be JC's best friends, and it would have nothing to do with sexual orientation.

Well, I suppose it's somewhere in the same vein as "Jesus loves the poor." or "Jesus hung out with sinners." Obviously some sinners (like the Pharisees) didn't make his invitation list, but the gist is that Jesus went towards the people that most of society was going away from.