Future Expansion at SFGAM

Tuesday, May 15, 2001 3:50 PM
I was looking at some ariel pics of SFGAM and began wondering how the park could expand in the future to add more attractions (primarily coasters). I found that the current bus parking are next to Raging Bull would be the best place for the park to expand. They could expand the park all the way out to the service road. There is quite a bit of land for many attractions and even a waterpark.

As far as adding more coasters to the parks existing area, it looks tight. I think the next large project will more than likely end up in the parking lot.

I could add what I want the park to get as far as coasters go, but there's no point.

What's everyone's take on this.

(I know they are getting 2 new coasters this year, I was just saying, in the future.)

http://www.weezil.com/sfgam.htm

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BMCOASTER

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Tuesday, May 15, 2001 4:05 PM
This sounds like a clever way to ask what will they get next! But this way I like it being said.
I've seen the pics, and I got thinking... If any of you have ever been to the Mueseum of Science & Industry in Chicago recently and years ago, you will understand this. The building used to have a huge parking lot in front of it. Now, it is a huge lawn. It looks very nice. Underneath is whats cool. They built a 4 floor parking garage underneath it. Now, if at SFGAm, they could build a garage & ramp out near the outskirts of the lot, they could then destroy parking lot nearer the park. That would open space for new rides and territories. If they built enough garages, they would have way more land because of the reduced area parking lots take up. Thats just my thought on what they should do with the land problem that looks like might exist. Or maybe they could just buy land somewhere near Chicago, build a park, and not have room for expansion! (Hmmm... SFEG style)

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Tuesday, May 15, 2001 4:19 PM
The parking garage thing is a really good idea. I never thought of that. It would probably be kind of hectic inside though. As good of an idea as it seems, when put into reality, I'm not sure if it will be that great, especially the morning lines of cars all flooding into it. In the morning it will be chaotic and slow, unless they like, figure out a clever way of doing it, such as... assigning spots via tickets or something?
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Tuesday, May 15, 2001 4:22 PM
That's what Universal did to build Islands of Adventure...and yes, the Science and Industry museum garages are NICE...the only thing is, it probably is a pretty penny to build them. But what do I know? If they did have like 2 garages, you would have pleanty of room for lots more rides and a few more coasters. Time will tell...

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-Glitchey
Who was at BGW on April 28th. *** This post was edited by Glitch01 on 5/15/2001. ***
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Tuesday, May 15, 2001 4:23 PM
I've been thinking about the very same thing too. The bus parking lot would be a good idea, but I'm not sure how they could fit a path through Raging Bull/Viper/go karts to get there. What I'd like for them to do is to build a B&M flying themed to a certain Space Shuttle. There's room behind the theatre, the Whizzer, Dino Island 3d, and room to "fly" over the go karts.(For best view look at the weezil web site, page 3, pic 4) There's also room behind Shockwave/Theatre Royale (Page 4, last pic) I wouldn't think they'd do this, but I would: move Picnic Grove to the open area behind the employee parking lot. Peace and quiet for the parties they have, and the current Picnic Groves land would be put to good use. Lastly, my favorite, buy back the Tidal Wave from SFoG and place it in the long stretch of land between the Colombia Carousel and the train station. (Hey, I can dream, can't I?)
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Tuesday, May 15, 2001 4:49 PM
At No Coaster Con back in January, a PR worker said they bought the land across the highway. They plan to build hotels and maybe that water park we've been hearing about ;)

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Tuesday, May 15, 2001 10:01 PM
I really don't think the parking garage thing will happen. My thinking was a new themed area beginning by Dino Island, and creating a path to the new section in between the go-carts and Viper. There is enough room, and this would be a great entry point for a new section. They could then have the path loop back over on the other side of the Stunt Show arena, by Eagle. I know this is maintenance service road, but it is an idea.

That would probably be the wisest way to route everything.

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BMCOASTER

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Tuesday, May 15, 2001 10:33 PM
They do own alot of land across the tollway which is determined for the resort, waterpark plan they have. It was approved by Gurnee but wont be implemented until more widening of roads takes place. As for future expansion of the park itself, I feel they should expand into the employee parking lot and relocate the employees parking somewhere else(possibly designate a certain area in the main lot for them). This way they wont disrupt the existing entrance to the park. There is plenty of room back there to expand. On the parking garage idea. All they really need to do is just add an extra floor for cars instead of a full blown parking garage. This would obviously create double car parking capacity and allow further expansion into the main parking lot.

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Tuesday, May 15, 2001 10:36 PM
Another idea that is probably a long shot would be to create a tunnel under the tollway for easy access to the land they own on the other side. That is if the tollway system would allow this to happen

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"SAVING THE WORLD BEFORE BEDTIME" Powerpuff girls
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Wednesday, May 16, 2001 6:31 AM
The only problem with expanding the park by overtaking the employee parking lot is the problems with the neighbors. I could see this being a very big problem with the community. They already complain about Shockwave and how loud it is. By putting the park literally in their backyards, I see this as a problem.

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BMCOASTER

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Wednesday, May 16, 2001 9:00 AM
Well my thoughts have always been that the next coaster should go into Orleans Place. If you look on that site, page 1, pic 5 you can see exactly the site I'm speaking of. The coaster entrance should be right near the big red theatre building in the upper left hand corner and then it couls extend all the way across to the (former) Yankee Clipper area. I understand that at least part of that area is picnic grounds, but those can be shifted round. The theme of the coaster should be "Swamp Thing" then it could have both a New Orleans theme and a DC comics theme. It's almost *too* perfect...and that's why it'll never happen.
lata,
jeremy
--who is still waiting for the tri-racing/dueling kiddie coasters themed to Blossom, Buttercup and Bubbles...
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Wednesday, May 16, 2001 9:52 AM
If they did that they would have to take account for Roaring Rapids that winds through that area. I agree with that location, and I was trying to place the station since I know the layout of that area.

If they took out Yankee Clipper they could free up some room as well. Which would make for a great location. The station could go by the picnic grove entrance. It could be placed over the water which would be a cool effect.

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BMCOASTER

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Wednesday, May 16, 2001 2:02 PM
I think that would be a good idea. I'm sure that you can move some supports/track around Roaring Rapids, or even just try to squeeze them in place. I mean they build Raging Bull over S.W. territory, so I'm sure they can think of something else. Somehow I can see a flying coaster fit in that area. But not like the typical layout of a flying coaster, an out-in back sort of.
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Wednesday, May 16, 2001 2:38 PM
Don't even think of getting rid of Yankee Clipper(Ice Mountain Splash)!!!! If one of them has to go, take Logger's Run.
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Thursday, May 17, 2001 6:25 AM
I don't think Logger's will go since that is the more popular of the 2 flumes. It's open all year unlike Clipper which is only open during certain months.

Does anyone find it strange that there is no longer a single attraction themed to the Yankee theme any more in Yankee Harbor. Maybe they will rename the section to be Ice Mountain Harbor. Hah!

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BMCOASTER

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Thursday, May 17, 2001 6:34 AM
Now there's an idea, why stop at sponsored rides, go for sponsored areas... McDonald's Hometown Square... Pepsi-Cola County Fair... "Thank you for riding Ice Mountain Splash and enjoy your visit to Sears Harbor(don't miss the Sears promotional display in front of the Campbell's Soup Batman The Ride coaster)!"

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Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:42 AM
Hey, if each one of those companies give out free promotional items, Six Flags will become my favorite company.
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Thursday, May 17, 2001 12:14 PM

goonsta said:
"Hey, if each one of those companies give out free promotional items, Six Flags will become my favorite company."


Now that sounds like a plan. ;) (I know this will never happen)
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Thursday, May 17, 2001 12:26 PM

BMCOASTER said:
"Does anyone find it strange that there is no longer a single attraction themed to the Yankee theme any more in Yankee Harbor."


Well besides "Yankee Clipper" I dont remember any attraction themed to "Yankee". I guess you caould make an argument for Tidal Wave, but that could have gone in Yukon Territory just as well. AND Batman is 'techincally' in the right area. Remember NYC is often referred to as 'Gotham'. You dont get much more 'Yankee' than NYC. Just a way of looking at things.
jeremy
--who thinks that 'WaterSpout', 'Whirlpool', 'Jet Stream' and 'Nor'Easter' would have been better names for V2...
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Thursday, May 17, 2001 5:24 PM

2Hostyl said:
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jeremy
--who thinks that 'WaterSpout', 'Whirlpool', 'Jet Stream' and 'Nor'Easter' would have been better names for V2..."




I still like the name 'The Next Wave' as a nice homage to Tidal Wave.

I'm sure SF still has those blue wavy things from Tidal Wave....
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When will......V2.......open.....*dies* (Vertical Velocity opens next day) *** This post was edited by kcies13-SFGAm on 5/17/2001. ***
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