flying coaster layouts

Friday, July 27, 2001 1:40 PM
Vekoma has said they are not going to make different models of the flying coaster unless a park is willing to put in the money. They hope to market these coasters like their SLC's.
B&M flying coasters will have different layouts since they are not all clone happy.
Friday, July 27, 2001 5:42 PM
Has B&M ever made a clone

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Friday, July 27, 2001 6:01 PM
Batman: The Ride is cloned at many Six Flags parks (and a Sea World park). Also, Rapter at Cedar Point has a clone in Japan. I think every coaster manufacturer has a clone somewhere.
Friday, July 27, 2001 6:04 PM
Batman: The Ride' are clones. No, Vekoma is not clone happy: they simply know how to give smaller (or bigger, in these cases) parks coasters for a small amount of money. Mathew, isn't it always the case that a manufacturer won't make custom layouts unless a park is willing to pay for it? It is simply efficient to design a ride and then mass produce it. If you want a custom ride, you're going to pay for it.

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Friday, July 27, 2001 8:15 PM

Coastercraver said:
"No, Vekoma is not clone happy.....coasters for a small amount of money."

I like many assumed a less expensive ride was major part of why SLCs and Boomerangs are everywhere. However....around 97-98 SLCs passed the $10,000,000 mark. Now they are closer to twelve. The latest "Batman" clones were only $12m, and the all new Talon was only $14m. I could see if SLCs were $4 million and B&M's were $10+, but other than a quick order and fast delivery, I don't see what makes SLCs so desiring to parks as opposed to other makes.

(Sorry this strayed a little from the thread topic! :) )

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Saturday, July 28, 2001 3:50 AM
(This is also nearly off-topic, sorry.)

Do you think B&M gets first pick over which park gets which? It seems to me they only produce, say 8 coasters a year which results in waiting lists or country restrictions (Why doesn't my country - Australia have a Beemer? Anyone have an idea why?)

Whereas Vekoma sometimes produce over 25 coasters a year.

I just had a weird thought, B&M doesn't build Shuttle, LIM/LSM or Junior Coasters. Imagine if they did!
Saturday, July 28, 2001 5:33 AM
Remember: The flying coaster concept is still new, this is just like the catalog corkscrew model being intalled everywhere in the 70's. Give it time!

Taipan: since you are from Australia, whats the current situation with the Big Dipper being sold to Dreamworld? Is it up and running yet?
Saturday, July 28, 2001 5:45 AM
Hey john, since I don't want to go off topic again, go to
Saturday, July 28, 2001 6:12 AM
This article tells you all about Skytrak:
Sunday, July 29, 2001 10:51 PM
the same thing happened a few yrs ago with the SLCs, verkoma made all these clones and parks bought them, then B&M cam along and made them even better and made custom ones to.

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