Fitting onto the rides
Personally, I think seatbelts should be lost entirely. As I had only gone to PKI for the majority of my life, when I finally ventured out, I was quite suprised to find seatbelts on so many coasters... Most/all of them were definitely not necessary, and just a pain. In fact, the ones on gwazi merely double the wait, and don't really help any...
Everdred said:
[ithe ones on gwazi merely double the wait, and don't really help any..."
You can say that again. I was really annoyed at the extra waiting time these things caused.
I was at Alton Towers (Staffs, UK) at the weekend and my friend (I'll not name her, all who need to know know who she is) is quite busty. She's not plump, just has big boobs. Submission is the new thrill ride at Alton Towers and advises "People with large upper-body dimensions should not ride this ride" so my friend (being outgoing) took great pleaseure in embarassing this teenage op in asking if her boobs were too big to ride. He said no, she went on and everyone was treated to her yelling at the top of her lungs about her boobs (most of it was for effect but it hurt her a bit). On the same ride I got the top of my legs crushed. I'm 6'2" and only weight 10 stone, so I reckon the harness' are just real tight.
Then they have to be when the thing holds you completely upside down for about 3 complete seconds!
A good ride none the less.
Corkscrew needs fixing for pain, you get the hell battered out of you!
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"'cos you know, it's strange! You stand in a library and go "AAAAARRRRGGGHHHH" and everyone just kinda stares at you, but if you do the same thing on a aeroplane everyone joins in!"
Then they have to be when the thing holds you completely upside down for about 3 complete seconds!
A good ride none the less.
Corkscrew needs fixing for pain, you get the hell battered out of you!
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"'cos you know, it's strange! You stand in a library and go "AAAAARRRRGGGHHHH" and everyone just kinda stares at you, but if you do the same thing on a aeroplane everyone joins in!"
I'm around six feet something and weigh about 135-140 pounds. I am skinny, yes, but because I'm skinny I get this whole lapbars and OTSRs tightened up on me all the time thing. Just because I'm a certain size does not mean that they should be allowed to staple me in on almost everything(PKD is the best for leaving you comfortable, so far) I ride, it makes it uncomfortable because instead of a buffer zone getting padded, my ribs, et cetra are taking it. I'm not short, you know, I just don't understand thier thinking, it's not like I leave a restraint up a foot or something, just the few clicks that become like five clicks, and ouch! It's the opposite, I know, but doesn't it hurt to be large and force yourself in? If one of those individual lap restraints is touching my leg when I start the ride, it's going to usually hurt, it's like they can manage to tighten up sometimes, that's not a concern?
Anyways, the belts on Volcano are nice for the larger people, although I don't know how large that they go, but Volcano is also very friendly to those of us with no padding(much better than the B&M style inverts).
Anyways, the belts on Volcano are nice for the larger people, although I don't know how large that they go, but Volcano is also very friendly to those of us with no padding(much better than the B&M style inverts).
Submission is a Chance Inverter. It's not you or your friend its simply that the restrains are tight becasue of the 3 second hangtime. When I used to run the Inverter at Adventuredome people got off every ride complaining about thier thighs. BEcasue of the tight nature it isnt very forgiving for larger people as the harness has to reach a certain point before the t-bars can be lowered and those have to reach a certain point before the "step" can be raised and locked for the ride to start.
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"ok everyone go ahead and pull down on your shoulder restraint so you feel nice and stuck!"
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"ok everyone go ahead and pull down on your shoulder restraint so you feel nice and stuck!"
I perfectly understand the need to have tight restraints especially on a ride like Submission, it was just a bit of a shock to feel SO snugly strapped in.
It didn't put me off the ride, I loved it!!! Just meant that I was confident to take my feet off the floor as well and my hands in the air (well, as much as you can on Submission).
On the subject of Submission does anyone think that filling the hole that's dug out for it would be really cool if it was filled with spikes? I know you'd have to have really short ones at either end (clearance and all that) but it would well freak-out less experienced riders. It's keep with the theming. If they made them of convincing silver rubber then there would be no real threat and it wouldn't affect maintenance...
Just a thought my friend and I came up with...
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"'cos you know, it's strange! You stand in a library and go "AAAAARRRRGGGHHHH" and everyone just kinda stares at you, but if you do the same thing on a aeroplane everyone joins in!"
It didn't put me off the ride, I loved it!!! Just meant that I was confident to take my feet off the floor as well and my hands in the air (well, as much as you can on Submission).
On the subject of Submission does anyone think that filling the hole that's dug out for it would be really cool if it was filled with spikes? I know you'd have to have really short ones at either end (clearance and all that) but it would well freak-out less experienced riders. It's keep with the theming. If they made them of convincing silver rubber then there would be no real threat and it wouldn't affect maintenance...
Just a thought my friend and I came up with...
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"'cos you know, it's strange! You stand in a library and go "AAAAARRRRGGGHHHH" and everyone just kinda stares at you, but if you do the same thing on a aeroplane everyone joins in!"
Ironically it was a coaster that spurned me on a few years ago to lose around 90 lbs. I was queing for Montu and BGT during an after hours event, and when I got to the seat I didn't fit (I'm 6'1 and about 300 lbs at the time) Talk about embarassing... that was a sort of turning point for me.. so now i'm about 210 and since I havn't had any problems with anything i've tried to ride.
They did transfer me to the bigger seat, but at that point it just didn't matter, ruined the whole evening for me and in the end made me a better person, I don't know what the answer is to be honest, like someone mentioned, not everyone has the option of just losing the weight, but I would guess when they build the rides they seek to accomidate as many people as safetly as possible, I don't get the impression they're singling out a section of society.
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Mark Hansen
http://www.themeparkcritic.com
They did transfer me to the bigger seat, but at that point it just didn't matter, ruined the whole evening for me and in the end made me a better person, I don't know what the answer is to be honest, like someone mentioned, not everyone has the option of just losing the weight, but I would guess when they build the rides they seek to accomidate as many people as safetly as possible, I don't get the impression they're singling out a section of society.
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Mark Hansen
http://www.themeparkcritic.com
About the spikes. In a sense it would hinder maintenece as technicians usually will "lock" the ride in an upside down position to work on the ride. Also it is important to have the area under the ride clear as there are compenents that must be worked on from underneath. Unless these spikes were removable....but then it would be a pain in the butt.
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"ok everyone go ahead and pull down on your shoulder restraint so you feel nice and stuck!"
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"ok everyone go ahead and pull down on your shoulder restraint so you feel nice and stuck!"
But if they were rubber and all in sections of matting (so you could easily lift a section out) then it may work.
My friend and I just thought it would be a cool addition.
My friend and I just thought it would be a cool addition.
I dont agree with not being able to control your weight. Of course you can, there are no medical conditions that say, you cant lose weight, you have to be fat. You can certainly do something about it. Work out. Take a walk and progress into a jog, I dont think it has anything to do with a medical condition. It's a little something called laziness, and I know alot of people who go on diets, but they claim the diets dont work. They dont work because some people dont stick to them. Alright, i'm done now after taking on the role of a personal trainer/preacher. Sorry if I offended anyone.
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CP in 2002, get to the point
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CP in 2002, get to the point
SmArtAce said:
"I dont agree with not being able to control your weight. Of course you can, there are no medical conditions that say, you cant lose weight, you have to be fat. You can certainly do something about it. Work out. Take a walk and progress into a jog, I dont think it has anything to do with a medical condition. It's a little something called laziness, and I know alot of people who go on diets, but they claim the diets dont work. They dont work because some people dont stick to them. Alright, i'm done now after taking on the role of a personal trainer/preacher. Sorry if I offended anyone.
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CP in 2002, get to the point
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Actually, you look rather ignorant here. Do you happen to know anyone who has to use steroid based asthma medicine. Ask them what it does to you. Every doctor in this country will tell you that you will gain weight. I also know of certain types of diabetes medicine that will also cause you to gain weight. So cut with the laziness garbage because you look stupid.
SmArtAce do you have a medical degree? Didn't think so! Don't make statements about subjects that you have NO clue about!! By the way I have never had a coaster I could not ride because of size, and you tell the females on here that are well endowed to go on a diet and you will get lots of responses telling you that diets don't necessarily make your breast size shrink.One medical condition that comes to mind is elephantitus (don't know if that is the correct spelling). Nuff said, I'll get off my soap box.
JC
I happen to be one of the women with large "baby making hips" and large chests. So don't even begin to say that if we lose weight that we could then fit, it simply does not work that way. I know how some women feel about the "squishing" of the chest, I believe that the designers should think about the millions of women out there that are larger than a A cup. So when you experience the problems that we women go through then I believe that you will then have a right to state your mind, but not until then!!!
Ang
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Just a couple of G-force junkies!
SmArtAce said:
I dont agree with not being able to control your weight. Of course you can, there are no medical conditions that say, you cant lose weight, you have to be fat.
Ah, but there ARE medical conditions that make it VERY difficult to lose weight. PCOS comes to mind ( http://www.pcosupport.org/ ) Weight loss in diabetics can be very problematic as well.
Not to mention people who are just large. Tall; wide hips; well-endowed women; none of that can be changed by dieting and exercising, no matter HOW much you try.
Let's try to keep the offensive comments down, please. That way lies topic closure, and I think there IS (or at least was) a valid discussion here.
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--Greg
http://www.pobox.com/~gregleg/
*** This post was edited by GregLeg on 7/20/2001. ***
I don't necesarily have a problem w/ this, Im 6-2 and weigh about 175, but I think that amusement parks have good reasons for the seat belts/limitations. There was a lady on Collussus at MM in 1978 who was very obese, and she fell out of the ride and died becasue the lap bar didn't go down enough and there was no seat belt. Because of this, MM had to take out the third drop on the coaster. I don't have any other examples, but im almost positive that this sort of thisng has happened since then. Parks are just trying to keep their patrons safe while making the rides fun. Sure they could build larger cars for larger people, but then many coasters would not be able to be buit as fast, or with as tight of turns and inversions. I also understand the height limitations on inverted coasters. It would not be practical for parks to build their inverted coasters that far off the grpound or that far away from other track/supports. Much of the thrill would be taken out f the ride. In conclusion, I think that coasters do a great job of satisfiying the general public.
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Red Wings Suck!!!
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Red Wings Suck!!!
I'taint always something you can fix by losing a few pounds...
I can't ride King Cobra or Mantis because my thighs are too big around to squeeze into the seat and still get the shoulder bar to come down.
I almost can't ride Pitt Fall because the safety belt is too short...and the spot where the shoulder bar is way too tight isn't around my (admittedly larger than it ought to be) gut, but rather across my shoulders. And I'm not exceptionally tall.
I could stand to lose some weight, but doing so won't make a bit of difference on those rides.
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
I can't ride King Cobra or Mantis because my thighs are too big around to squeeze into the seat and still get the shoulder bar to come down.
I almost can't ride Pitt Fall because the safety belt is too short...and the spot where the shoulder bar is way too tight isn't around my (admittedly larger than it ought to be) gut, but rather across my shoulders. And I'm not exceptionally tall.
I could stand to lose some weight, but doing so won't make a bit of difference on those rides.
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
angnjc, my wife is small in the chest area, and some of these rides like Mantis make 'em hurt. She doesn't need to loose weight, that's for sure, it's just sometimes some rides put a pressure on a certain area. So, if you are a certain height and are a female, no matter how endowed you are or are not, some rides will just have you in that general area.
As for changing weight, I've said it before, I'm not short, I'm slanky, real slim. I've tried to gain weight, my parents even have thought something was wrong and sent me to be checked out. If I gained a little weight, I wouldn't get beaten up as bad because ops always staple me even when I'm in there good. I'm tall enough it shouldn't matter, but if I leave the least space for comfort, whabam! I get it pushed all the way down. I eat four or five times a day, that weight just doesn't come on, I can imagine it would be the same as a person with a slow metabolism trying to loose alot of weight, some people are certain sizes. Some guys at 175 pounds look "buff", some look "chubby a little", we're all different to the point that I agree with the comment that the parks have done well, considering, accomadating most the folk they can with what they want to do. People who negatively comment on peoples' weights are just showing how understanding they are not, uneduacated, and unaware they are, not to mention it borders on arrogance.
As for changing weight, I've said it before, I'm not short, I'm slanky, real slim. I've tried to gain weight, my parents even have thought something was wrong and sent me to be checked out. If I gained a little weight, I wouldn't get beaten up as bad because ops always staple me even when I'm in there good. I'm tall enough it shouldn't matter, but if I leave the least space for comfort, whabam! I get it pushed all the way down. I eat four or five times a day, that weight just doesn't come on, I can imagine it would be the same as a person with a slow metabolism trying to loose alot of weight, some people are certain sizes. Some guys at 175 pounds look "buff", some look "chubby a little", we're all different to the point that I agree with the comment that the parks have done well, considering, accomadating most the folk they can with what they want to do. People who negatively comment on peoples' weights are just showing how understanding they are not, uneduacated, and unaware they are, not to mention it borders on arrogance.
If car and airline manufacturers can develop restraint systems to accomodate a brader audience, so can a ride manufacturer.
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Yeeee Haaawwww!
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Yeeee Haaawwww!
*** This post was edited by janfrederick on 7/20/2001. ***
I may not have a medical degree, but i dont think that i looked stupid for posting what i did before. Most of the people that cant fit into rides are fat like they are because all they do is sit around and eat. I know there are some medicines out there that will make you gain weight, but not to the amount that you are obese. All weight problems are controllable, or atleast if you do have a weight problem, you can lose the weight. If you do take the medications, ask your doctor if its ok that you can work out. Anyway, don't complain to other people because you cant fit in a ride and you get embarressed because of your weight problem. It's not my problem, and quite frankly, i dont wanna hear about it. Oh, and pointman, people can lose weight, it is from laziness. Just to point something out, if you have diabetes, you can have high blood pressure, which on every ride at cp it warns you not to ride if you have high blood pressure. So, if you havent noticed, im not talking about woman who are well endowed, im talking about fat people.
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CP in 2002, get to the point
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CP in 2002, get to the point
I think that coaster designers should start looking at bigger people as the prototypes for the restraints. Im 6`5, 225 lbs. and I have trouble fitting into the SOB cars. I love the ride, but I think its ridiculous to make someone as big as me fit into such a tiny space that I get a burn mark (scab and everything to prove it) on the horizontal bar just cause the body style is too small.
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