Figuring out ride capacity

I've done a topic search and found nothing, so don't flame me for asking. How do you figure out a ride's capacity? I know it has something to do with the 45 second load/unload, but is there a way to figure it out?

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OK. Say the average load time is 45 seconds. Now let's also say the coaster runs 3 trains. Now lets say (saying lots of stuff huh?) the ride lets 240 seconds. Since there's 3 trains, divide that by 3. 80 + 45 = 125 seconds. Now the trains fit 32 (Beemer) people. So we're getting 32 people in every 80 seconds. With me so far? Good. Ok, 80 seconds is approximatly 1.2 minutes. There are 50 1.2 minute periods in an hour. So we do 50 X 32 = 1600People per hour. with 3 trains! Hope this helps! If it doesn't, I'll throw a big monkey at you! OOOH OOOOH AAAAHH AHHHH!

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*** This post was edited by S00perGIR on 6/28/2002. ***

You take the number of seats per train and multiply it by the estimated number of trains per hour. For instance, if a ride seats 32 people and sends a train about every two minutes, thats 30 trains x 32 people = 960.

To hit the optimal dispatch, a train should leave the station block so that it is on the ride block just after the train on the course gets off the brakes.

How manufacturers do it is as a spec is a mystery - to me at least.

Soopergir is being way to complicated.

Easy way would be Coaster X seats 32 people and dispastches a train every minute that would be 60 trains per hour or 1920 peeps per hour.

It has nothing to do with the number of trains used I have no idea where that came from.

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MagnumForce,

What coaster with one train of 32 seats would ever average a capacity of 1,920?

In your example I think you would also have to factor in ride time.

Shaggy

I think MagnumForce has it correct. Ride time doesn't matter, because many coasters have more than one train on the course at a time. If 20 leave the station every minute, that'd be 20 x 60 minutes = 1200 an hour. The only way it could be lower is if a train dosen't return.

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*** This post was edited by S00perGIR on 6/28/2002. ***

The number of trains makes no difference, if you have 20 trains or one train and one is dispatched every minute you still have the same PPH.

Take wicked twister for example the train is dispatched roughly every 2 minutes so 30 cycles per hour. Son of Beast runs two trains and probably dispatches a train just abotu every two minutes, 30 cycles per hour. (Forget that the trains hold different amounts of people) Now sure if you take a train off it would make less cycles per hour but that would be different anyway.

All you do is take the number of trains dispatched per hour, makes no difference how many trains there are, times the number of people per train. Simple as that, makes no difference if there are 3 trains or 20 trains. Its how often a train is dispatched.

BTW s00pergir with zeros what the hell are you on and where can I get some. Ya see I have been in the hospital for a long time and the morphene just aint cutting it anymore.

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*** This post was edited by MagnumForce on 6/28/2002. ***

Make it easy; make it a formula--
t = average dispatch interval [seconds]
n = passengers per dispatch [people]
c = hourly capacity [people per hour]

c = (3600/t)*n

--Dave Althoff, Jr.
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...important to note that more trains makes it a whole lot easier to dispatch quickly...;)...to a point.

A coaster will NEVER reach its rated capacity. i.e. Magnum says it is 2500/ hour but I would bet anything that it has never once topped 1600.

well, i'm sure a lot of the disney coaster's do it. all of the big ones have dual loading stations (big thunder mountain, space mountain, california screamin', splash mountain). A lot of them are dual tracked too (dino spin wild mouse, matterhorn, space mountain).


It is very, very rare, but i don't think it happens once you add things like gates, people waiting at the exit, and loose items.

Magnum's maximum capacity is 2000pph according to CP's website and 1944 pph according to CP's Magnum operation manual given to each member of the crew. I can tell you for sure that 1944 would mean dispatching 54 trains in an hour all FILLED with 36 people in them. I don't really know how they get this number since it would mean a dispatch interval of 1:06.7 and the listed dispatch interval in the manual is 1:15. In reality, Magnum usually dispatches between 1:18 and 1:20 (when previous train is cresting the second hill). While 1944 is probably never going to happen, it is possible to get well over 1600. Last year on our best day, we opened the ride at 9:40 and closed at about 10 after 11, so that's 13.5 hours. We did 23,094 riders so that works out to an average of 1710 riders per hour. 1500-1600 is probably the average number when the crew isn't trying to pack trains, but if they are busting their butts like we did that day, it is possible to do more easily.

Raptor has 4 less seats per train, but they have a shorter dispatch interval. Their crew was realing doing well the last time I visited so I wouldn't be surprised if this year's Raptor numbers are among the highest ever.

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*** This post was edited by MDOmnis on 6/29/2002. ***

Use a turnstile. Duh. ;)

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Wow, cedar point gets very close to their capacity of the ride, while other's closely related to it struggle to get a boat out in less than 15 minutes (cough::Perilous Plunge at KBF::Cough). Why can't Cedar Point interveiw some Aussies and train them in australia and then send them to KBF. The ski resorts always have aussies in CA (especially mammoth mountain). I guess they're more into working for benefits.

Rideman makes a good point about average dispatch times. The more times you sample, the more accurate the average will be.

It's not like I ever actually time dispatches while I'm waiting in line...;)

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