Ethical question about unsafe behavior

Monday, June 11, 2001 10:12 AM
A while ago there was a post about whether you've witnessed anything unsafe at a park. Now I have a follow-up to that.

What do you do if you witness unsafe or "illegal" behavior by a fellow enthusiast. For example, what if you saw a Coaster Buzz member open their seat belt after leaving the station and re-attach it on the brake run? Do you say something to them? Do you say something to the ride ops or staff? What do you do?

Now I know no one here would do that but I'm curious to know what everyone would do in this situation.

If this is a repeat topic I apologize. I searched but found nothing about this before.

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
Monday, June 11, 2001 11:09 AM
I do that all the time on The Comet at GE, I also make sure the bar is about a foot above my lap... Best standup coaster I have ever rode!!
Monday, June 11, 2001 11:12 AM
I would say something to the staff if you feel it is compromising his or her safety. If it's someone you know tell them how you feel. They're setting a bad example for junior enthusiasts as well as other patrons they might be riding with. Man I feel like Dear Abby or something.
Monday, June 11, 2001 11:12 AM
Real smart, kingbob. That's how legislatures get statistics. But anyway, If I saw somebody doing something they shouldn't, I'd approach them and tell them what they are doing wrong. If they ignore me and continue, I would probably alert an employee. As I said, it's people who can't follow simple rules that ruin things for the rest of us.

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Monday, June 11, 2001 11:53 AM
The way I see it, if someone wants to do something totally idiotic like that, let them. Let's see them sue the park for damages if I witness it. I'll let it happen to them. It's their own fault for not following park guidelines of safety. I think it's totally immature and not very rolemodel like for other riders. Especially youngs ones who are barely big enough for the restraints to hold them in. You know??

Shawn Bailes
110 Drumline
Monday, June 11, 2001 12:16 PM

kingbob said:
"I do that all the time on The Comet at GE, I also make sure the bar is about a foot above my lap... Best standup coaster I have ever rode!!

I'm gonna LAUGH when I see you violently thrown from the train...idiot.
Monday, June 11, 2001 6:11 PM
I would tell the person to put the seat belt back on, if they refused, then I would let it be, if anything happens to them they can't say they weren't warned. Just like most coaster accidents, the people who are involved know they are doing something they should not and sometimes they end up paying the price. This is how life works, it's not just an issue with coasters.
Monday, June 11, 2001 9:18 PM
I don't think taking off a seatbelt is really a dangerous thing, but it's probably better to follow rules. I know someone who used to unlock their lapbars on PTC and NAD trains (it's not hard), kinda stupid. This guy got hurt on Magnum when he left the lapbar nearly all the way open (he new the girls who ran the ride) then tied the lap bar to the stationary bar with a bungee cord to keep it from falling down. On the bunny hop going into the last tunnel, this idiot just about flew ONTO the people behind him. It was WAY stupid. He hurt his back very bad, and nearly busted his nose when he reached for the bar and grabbed the bungee cord instead, and that popped him right in the nose. Just follow the rules :>

When I worked on the Blue Streak at CP, we shut it down on the lift at least 3 times a week for people standing up.

Ow! My lap bar IS down all the way.
Tuesday, June 12, 2001 4:02 AM
I agree with everyone who has taken the position that something should be said to the person that could be jeopardizing the experience for everyone. I find those that do this are generally among that younger "I am invincible" mind set, trying to push the limits for that extra thrill. However, if I speak up usually I am greeted with looks of disdain or that "yuh, whatever, shut up old man" expression. It's because I have white hair and look older than I am (IMO!) and "they" probably say to themselves that I am just an old fart worrywart. Which I am not, I can ride with the best of them. I was once like them in the appearance of my day (I "was there" once) and disliked when older people judged me and my peers by our appearance, so I don't judge these people by how they look, which will change over time. Most are probably intelligent and will become decent law abiding citizens. If they remain in one piece, that is, and I (we) don't want to see anything happen on coasters to prevent that. Anyway, now the only thing I talk about in the queue is general coaster talk. I let everything else go.
end of editorial (sorry)

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