End of the Traditional Hyper

TeknoScorpion said:

But the original point behind hypers were for a coaster with a 200+ foot drop. Don't believe me? See: Moonsault, Magnum XL200, Steel Phantom.

Really? How many of those coasters actually have a drop of 200 feet? As far as I know it was the only one that wasn't over 200 feet tall.

Yeah is Good!

I guess I stand corrected. At least I'm still Standing :).

Yeah, but you suddenly appear to be a little shorter. :)

Yeah is Good!

Nope, I'm still 6'2" (I went and checked ;)).

See, You don't get cut down when you admit a mistake:).

All coasters are rooted in the woodie. Was Magnum built to simulate a wood coaster experience? I'm sure that's the point.

Most of us can see the natural evolution of the Hypercoaster from the out-n-back to B&M's more twisted action. As great as they are no more traditional Morgan hypers are being built, not because Morgan isn't building them but they have trouble competing with today's more advanced product.

This is why parks tend to purchase the hottest item on the market, the next innovation. We usually see brands of rides dominating periods of time. Today the B&M flooorless is the popular standard, a few years from now it may be something else that dominates the market.

Half of my question is: has Intamin launchers become the new big coaster standard? The other half of the question is: is the Intamin launcher the next step in the hyper coaster's evolution?

Im sorry, There's nothing about a ANTON coaster that is rooted in the woodie except maybe gravity.

And once again RC, Im not attacking you but if you think even a majority of parks are getting a Intamin Rocket. Your sadly mistaken.

How many B&M dive coasters are there? 3, Why? Price. It might be the wave of the future but it's not gonna be as popular as you think.

Chuck, who mentioned the price and reliablilty factors already and even if the latter is fixed, the cost factor is a major deterent to all but the bigger parks out there.

I don't buy that its too expensive. HA Ha that's funny.

These one hill wonders maybe ahead of their time, which is why they may be having the difficulties. Eventually the cost will be down and the reliability will be up. Maybe not next year but eventually.

Given that my questions remain valid. Sure, we are at the begin stages of this, so I'm asking folks to use their imaginations.

Rc and Im not making this personal, Really I ain't.

The cost involved involve more that just the rides price. The maintence and even power to launch them are staggering right now not to mention steel prices going through the roof.

If a parks president says, "If I knew then, What I know now, when deciding to build it. I would never have done so." what does that mean?

rc-madness said:
Eventually the cost will be down and the reliability will be up. Maybe not next year but eventually.

What, when Intamin sells their product line to some company more concerned about reliability and safety?

....me, I'm hoping for Premier! ;)

The REAL shame of all this...the standard Intamin megacoaster, chain-lift RoS, is still my personal favorite steel coaster of ALL time (sincerest apologies to my man Anton)...once Intamin got *hyper-excited* about launches, the real CORE of their business/product line fell to pieces... :(

This should be one part of a larger "pinned" thread.

Yes, floorless rides are the new sitdown loopers.
No, rocket coasters are not the new hypercoasters.
Stand-ups are dead.

http://pouringfooters.blogspot.com

Olsor said:
3. Stand-ups are dead

.... and the people cheered!

*** Edited 7/20/2005 6:15:59 PM UTC by SLFAKE***

^ Certainly the folks who haven't been to Austell, GA cheered.