Effective Turn-around

Which turn-around on the three Morgan hypers in the Cedar Fair chain do you think works more effectively than the others. Steel Force, Mamba, or Wild Thing. I havent ridden all three so my opinion doesnt count, I have only seen pictures. So for those that have ridden all three, which one is more effective?
Wild Thing has a weird bump that really catches you off guard. It's the tiniest bit painful so I would guess not the Wild Thing.

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I've only been on Mamba, and the 570? degree helix is amazing! Great headchoppers! I rode it 6 times, and ducked every single time.

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Mamba and Steel Force are the same ride. I liked Steel Force, but I have never ridden the other two.

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I think its safer to use the word "similar" CycloneWacko rather than the same because they are not the same ride.
I like Mambas the best. But, SD2Ks turnaround blows all three away.

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CycloneWacko said:

Mamba and Steel Force are the same ride. I liked Steel Force, but I have never ridden the other two.



You'd be surprised. There are a few differences in which separate both rides from each other. Steel Force's second hill is 156' while the second hill on Mamba is 184'. Another is a contrast between the helices. Mamba's does a straightaway dive to the ground into the helix, while Steel Force enters its downspiraling helix more gradually.

...and thus the entrance to the MCBR is quite a bit different on Mamba as well. And Mamba has no tunnels. They really are quite different.

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Having only been on Steel Force I have a question - Mainly about the bigger second hill on Mamba. Does it feel like you're just crawling over the top of it? If the above info is correct, then the second hill on Mamba is 28 feet higher than Steel Force's and on Steel Force it seems slow over the second hill. You still get air, it's just slow feeling over the top of the 156 foot hill. I can't imagine tacking on any more height to that hill.

Also Mamba's helix looks like it'd be more intense and the bunny hops on the reutrn look "shallow" compared the Steel Force's.

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The hill isn't any taller - the drop is deeper due to the terrain.

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Oh, I see - perhaps I took kRaXLeRidAh's post in the wrong context. Or maybe it's just worded poorly...there's a difference between height and drop - I read it to mean it was a higher hill, not a longer drop.

Sounds to me like Mamba would be a pretty good ride. :)

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Just to make it a bit clearer:

http://www.coastergallery.com/2001/WOF13.html

The pullout of the second drop is way lower than the first.

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Lord Gonchar said:

Having only been on Steel Force I have a question - Mainly about the bigger second hill on Mamba. Does it feel like you're just crawling over the top of it? If the above info is correct, then the second hill on Mamba is 28 feet higher than Steel Force's and on Steel Force it seems slow over the second hill. You still get air, it's just slow feeling over the top of the 156 foot hill. I can't imagine tacking on any more height to that hill.

Also Mamba's helix looks like it'd be more intense and the bunny hops on the reutrn look "shallow" compared the Steel Force's.

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Speaking about the Mamba, The bottom of the 2nd drop is lower than the first and the speed of THe Mamba reaches 75 MPH not once but twice (Both on the 1st and 2nd hills). The first drop is 200 feet from the top of the lift to the bottom and the 2nd drop is 184 feet from the top of the 2nd hill to the bottom. If you sit in the front car of the train you relaize that you get great Air Time on the 2nd hill and then wisked down very fast towards the helix.

I do not know what the height of going up the 2nd hill is from the 1st drop. If someone can do the math fourmola of what info I have of the speed being 75 MPH and the 2nd drop 184 feet. One last note I find that I really feel like the Mamba was ripped off in the Golden Tickets Awards being in a tie for 24th place when it clearly better than the coasters above it. I find that the Mamba is one of the most underrated coasters in the world.

FYI: Steel Force and Mamba are clearly differnt coasters. You should go look at photos of the helices and the 2nd drop and see what I'm talking about. Don't even bother agureing with me about them being the same when they're not.

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*** This post was edited by Sawblade5 on 10/4/2002. ***

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Sawblade5 said:

FYI: Steel Force and Mamba are clearly differnt coasters. You should go look at photos of the helices and the 2nd drop and see what I'm talking about. Don't even bother agureing with me about them being the same when they're not.



Well, I never said they were. In fact I pointed out the differences myself. So I'll definitely heed the advice and not bother arguing something I agree with.

Wasn't Chris Knight the guy who played Peter Brady?

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I just said that to prevent would be flamers from flaming us.

BTW, Do you want to mow my Astro Turf lawn. :-)

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*** This post was edited by Sawblade5 on 10/4/2002. ***

Having been on Steel Force and Wild Thing, I can say that the helix on SF is more intense than the turn around on WT. You just seem to pull alot more g's since it continually speeds up through the entire helix. I have no opinion on Mamba since I haven't had the chance to ride it yet.

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Then maybe we can fix our bikes, Sawblade! :)

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