East River Crawler.

Friday, September 13, 2002 6:58 PM
What is happening to East River Crawler at SFGAm?
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Friday, September 13, 2002 7:01 PM
probably just down for maintance, but some people speculate that it will be relocated to make room for next year's attraction. it has not been announced yet so no one really knows for sure and anything that you hear is purely speculation.

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-Bob (formerly Coaster Jedi)
Knott's Berry Farm Cuba ~South Park
"Your proctologist called, he found your head!" ~Jerry "The King" Lawler

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Friday, September 13, 2002 8:14 PM

Is the East River Crawler closed at the moment?

I agree with Bob, probably just maintenance. If it is moving somewhere, I highly highly doubt that it's to make room for a new ride. Most likely it would be relocated to the Orleans since that area is seriously lacking rides at the moment and Yankee Harbor is a little crowded.

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Friday, September 13, 2002 8:17 PM
I think it will be moved next to the Roaring Rapids and replace a few of those games or that big dumb gazeebo. I highly doubt that this very popular ride would leave the park. Lets also hope that PowerDive is reinstalled in 2003. (Its happend before, the Big Top was removed for several years and then opend back up in the SWT as Ricochet)

*** This post was edited by SFGAMNUT9302 on 9/14/2002. ***

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Friday, September 13, 2002 8:47 PM

I know that from the last few weeks of August it was down, and I get the general feeling from discussion around here that it has yet to re-open.

as for moving it for the new attraction, well there are a couple problems with this theory: the new attraction has not been announced yet. it could be a coaster (most likely) or it could be something else. none of us really knows because none of us are working at the upper levels of SFGA. now, assuming that the new attraction will be a coaster and that it will be a B&M flyer, there are problems that, I'm sure, could be overcome, but it would probably be easier to find a different spot. in between Cajun Cliffhanger and Powerdive is a railroad. while getting around it would be intriguing, it would probably be too much of a pain. the food stall between Power Dive and the midway would have to be removed (no big deal), but then the midway extends out a little with some games and some buildings by Power Dive which limits how low the coaster can be. you could put the lift here, but then where does the coaster go? there is a huge complex of buildings between Power Dive and East River Crawler. if you go behind them, you have to navigate between Tripple Play and a service area. after passing that, you have to skim between Batman and the complex. now for you big turn around...all contained within the space of East River Crawler. the way back would be fairly similar and there would be another battle with the rail road. it may be possible if you put up some theming elements and have a lot-and I do mean a lot-of inline twists. and now that you've got the ride up, you have to place the queuing line. there is absolutly no room for this in the area anywhere if you have a coaster. there may be room to squeeze in a ride, but you would have a ride without a line which is no good.

tchnoguy's right. if they move ERC its not going to be for a new ride. the only thing that could replace it is another flat which would just be a lateral move and SFGA would save themselves a lot of time and money if they just applied a functional theme to the new flat and placed it in Orleans. if they were to take it out and replace it with nothing, then the area would be a waste of space. while Yankee Harbor is crowded, taking it out would just leave a circular piece of concrete that is blocked off from public use. its better to use the land for the ride that's there.

sfgamnut9302: why would SFGA spend money to reloacate a ride and then remove attractions that give the park money? have you ever won something from SFGA? its all crap. if you put it away the night you get it, it may last, but there's no guarantee for that. now how much do they charge for those pieces of crap? six bucks. at least. I would assume that SFGA is making at least five dollars on every small prize that is won. its a whole lot more for the bigger prizes or if more than two people compete. I always see people playing those games all across the park and I see people carying around their prizes all day so obviously SFGA is making a killing on that. so you want them to take those money makers out and replace them with a money-eater? do you really think that ERC makes money? do people come across the world to ride ERC? does the forty dollars that you throw down to enter the park even begin to pay for the yearly costs of running and maintaining the ride?

and what gazeebo are you talking about? the only gazeebo I've noticed in the park is the one where the Looney Toons characters are for the kids and taking that out would be like twisting the knife in the back of your family demo. not to mention the fact that the gazeebo is nowhere near the area you're talking about.

as for Power Dive returning: well, I don't know, but I'd rather see a ferris wheel there than another ride.

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-Bob (formerly Coaster Jedi)
Knott's Berry Farm Cuba ~South Park
"Your proctologist called, he found your head!" ~Jerry "The King" Lawler

*** This post was edited by SFGA Bob on 9/14/2002. ***

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Friday, September 13, 2002 10:06 PM

SFGA Bob said:

Iand what gazeebo are you talking about? the only gazeebo I've noticed in the park is the one where the Looney Toons characters are for the kids and taking that out would be like twisting the knife in the back of your family demo. not to mention the fact that the gazeebo is nowhere near the area you're talking about.

as for Power Dive returning: well, I don't know, but I'd rather see a ferris wheel there than another ride.

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-Bob (formerly Coaster Jedi)
Knott's Berry Farm Cuba ~South Park
"Your proctologist called, he found your head!" ~Jerry "The King" Lawler

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I think he is talking about the little stage right by where Power Dive used to be.

A ferris wheel would be great right there, especially a "Wonder Wheel" type.

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Friday, September 13, 2002 10:57 PM
The East River Crawler was down even when I was there over a month ago. It's queue was part of the queue for Batman.

Don't know a thing if it's staying there or not, but it seems silly to have a ride that has to shut down when the line for Batman is too long.

~me

edit: Ok, thanks for clearing that up. The line started past the bridge in Orleans Place, and it ran right behind the ERC. It looked like the same queue, but it was my 1st time there, so I guess it probably wasn't. Regardless, it was the most god-awful line I've ever waited in, especially for a Batman clone. It is a great ride however, so I guess it was worth it.

*** This post was edited by nelson324 on 9/14/2002. ***

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Saturday, September 14, 2002 5:10 AM
I was there last Sunday and all of the cars have been removed. I think it is just maintenence

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I am proud to say my homepark has 3 B&M's, soon to be 4, hopefully.;)

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Saturday, September 14, 2002 7:51 AM

oh, the gazeebo is that little Power Alley thing? yeah, that needs to go.

nelson 324: are you sure that ERC's line was being used for Batman? Batman's line can go behind it and start near Cajun Cliffhanger, but it never gets that long anymore. and I'm sure they didn't shut the ride down just to make room for Batman, they may have had it down for another reason and just used the queue since it was open.

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-Bob (formerly Coaster Jedi)
Knott's Berry Farm Cuba ~South Park
"Your proctologist called, he found your head!" ~Jerry "The King" Lawler

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Saturday, September 14, 2002 9:18 AM

Gamfan said:
I was there last Sunday and all of the cars have been removed. I think it is just maintenence

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I am proud to say my homepark has 3 B&M's, soon to be 4, hopefully.



Did you take pic's? If so post a link.

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"What is it that no man wants to have yet no man wants to loose?"
"Holy Bogglers Batman I've got it the answer is a Lawsuit."

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Saturday, September 14, 2002 10:00 AM
Sorry didn't bring my camera, but I am going Sunday and I'll give you an update. But I am not going to bring my camera because I will be with my family.

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I am proud to say my homepark has 3 B&M's, soon to be 4, hopefully.;)

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Saturday, September 14, 2002 10:01 AM
This pic was taken Labor Day weekend. I don't remember who took it though.

http://www.loopscrew.com/~pictures/crawler.jpg

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Saturday, September 14, 2002 11:17 AM

nelson324 said:
The East River Crawler was down even when I was there over a month ago. It's queue was part of the queue for Batman.

Don't know a thing if it's staying there or not, but it seems silly to have a ride that has to shut down when the line for Batman is too long.

~me



hehe, some of batman's overflow queue runs parallel with east river crawler's queue. they do not use the same queue, however.

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Sunday, September 15, 2002 5:32 PM

A few thoughts...

1) to the person speaking about SFGAm removing some of the games and putting a ride there... Trust me, that will not happen. I used to work in the games dept there (almost 10 years ago now). Back then they raked in the dough with those games. Since I worked there, the amount of games in the park has doubled. It's all about the green man...

2) Another theory about the Crawler closing... they may be reworking that area a bit. The entrance to Batman is currently in a screwy place - You usually have to enter on the side of that concession stand. It's possible that they're going to move the crawler to where the batmobile currently is, or just maybe just over a bit so that the cue line for batman is more exposed. They should have done something about that a long time ago... it's got one of the most odd cue line entrances in the park.

3) I still think Orleans is the most logical reason for the move (if it is moving). I tried to sidestep the topic of the proposed new ride last time around since it's such a controversial topic, but my guess is that it's all tied together somehow. I don't care where they move it, as long as it stays - it's my favorite flat ride at the park!!

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Sunday, September 15, 2002 5:56 PM

I was at SFGAm today(9/15/02) and East River Crawler was down to a little tiny stump. I think it is safe to assume it will be removed.

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I am proud to say my homepark has 3 B&M's, soon to be 4, hopefully.

*** This post was edited by Gamfan on 9/16/2002. ***

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