Dueling Dragons

Saturday, August 23, 2003 4:32 PM
Just a quick questions, does Dueling Dragons count as one or two coasters. Also does anyone know how to get discount tickets to Islands of Adventure or sea world. Thanks
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Saturday, August 23, 2003 5:03 PM
DD is considered to be one ride, despite the fact that the two tracks' layouts are completely different (except for the station and lift).

Maybe it should be worded differently, it's one attraction, but two separate coasters. Neither of the coasters separate would be as cool as they are together, so it depends on how you look at it I guess.

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Saturday, August 23, 2003 5:21 PM
Not exactly. It really depends who you ask.

Personally, I say it's two. It's two completely different(key word) coasters that happen to have the same name(kind of) and are close to each other.


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Saturday, August 23, 2003 5:35 PM
everyone that i talked to thinks its two coasters.
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Saturday, August 23, 2003 5:38 PM
why did that need edited - twice??

DD is DEFINITELY two coasters. You can make an argument about Racer, say, at PKI, but certainly not DD.

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Saturday, August 23, 2003 6:34 PM
Here's where you have to get a little technical. Dueling Dragons is ONE COASTER, but TWO COASTER TRACKS. Dueling Dragons, but Fire and Ice as well.

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Saturday, August 23, 2003 6:57 PM
NO IT ISN'T ONE COASTER! God!

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Saturday, August 23, 2003 7:12 PM
How long is the queue when everything is open and full?
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Saturday, August 23, 2003 7:30 PM

Just to answer a few questions that I saw on here....First of all Dragons is two coasters even though they do consider it to be one ride. Both tracks are completely different in both layout and also length, and the trains reach totally different speeds. Fire side is a little quicker then Ice but both do invert you five times.

The other question was with the que and there was only one time as an employee that I saw it completely full and that was during Halloween Horror Nights last year. WIth everything full and the outside completely open including the side que along the castle we were pushing nearly two hours. Oh yeah two hours, of drunk stupid idiots who didn't know they couldn't smoke in line......

Any other questions feel free to ask I know quite a bit about Dragons.
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Saturday, August 23, 2003 7:41 PM
Wow, with that big of a queue line Id figure the wait would be more around 4 hours but inverts do move quickly
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Saturday, August 23, 2003 8:56 PM
I do wish that everyone would quit it. This is an opinionated question. Note how in my post I put the direct word, Personally. That means that it is my opinion. Everyone seems to agree that it is indeed two coasters , and that is their opinion.

Jamin said it quite good , even though he stated as fact(and his sig's much too long.I think that's a record!).

Hey, I remember 6th grade English!


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Sunday, August 24, 2003 2:06 AM
The way I look at things is, If the ride has 2 SEPERATE tracks, then it counts as 2 coasters so I count Gwazi,Racer at PKI,Duelling Dragons and Rebel Yell(some of which I have ridden) all as 2 coasters each which means 8 overall. Of course this is my opinion, feel free to have your say
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Sunday, August 24, 2003 2:36 AM
1 ride, 2 coasters

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Sunday, August 24, 2003 5:37 AM
It's definitely two coasters. I've seen on many rollercoaster websites where they count IOA as having 3 B&M coasters which would only be possible if they counted DD as two coasters.

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Sunday, August 24, 2003 6:08 AM
People tend to separate things from another. We love to think in units, in unities. A telephone is separated from its surroundings, but is it really a telephone without its line, without someone to use it? It's our idea of a telephone that matters, really. It would still be a telephone if it was lying around on the bottom of the ocean, disconnected and completely useless.

So, we think of "coaster" as a unity. A coaster consists of a lift-hill, a track, trains, a station, supports... etc. thousands of sub-entities that we neglect and take for granted when we say "coaster", and still we trust them with our lives.
This unity is created by the general use of the word, by an "average coaster", an archetype that has built up in our imagination by seing coasters.
If one of those unity somehow expands that concept, we stand there in awe... what an enormous coaster track... what an enourmously high coaster... what a coaster that has so many inversions... what a coaster in which you have to ride standing up.

Sometimes this concept of "coaster" is entirely questioned, for example, what if the coaster has two lift hills? What if it's launched? What if it doesn't have a track that comes back on itself but one that must be traveled both ways for the train to return to the station?
Some things we get along with better than others.

Coasters such as Superman the Escape, TTD, Wicked Twister sometimes make us say: "That's not a coaster" because they stick out somewhat from the rest.

But now... is Duelling Dragons one or two of these untities? Is it that they form in our mind one combined coaster track that you can't ride in one go, but you have to get out of one train and get into the other? (...like a coaster with two lift hills, but with a separate queue line for each, also).
Or is it an expanded duelling coaster (like "Le Monstre" at La Ronde, Montreal) in which the tracks don't go parallel but each in their own path?
Or is it so that they are two completely separate coasters of the same type that are just artfully intertwined and are their own entity each?

The name of the coaster/s is "Duelling Dragons". A duell taking place between two entities, "Dragon", of the same type, fighting for supremacy.
Now that leads us to the question: Are the Dragons the coaster trains that are duelling each other, like on a traditional duelling coaster in which the tracks run in parallel, or are the Dragons indeed the coaster tracks that are duelling against each other, thereby creating two complete coaster entities competing with one another.

It seems like a cell that's about to divide and already has two nuclei, but the observations I have just described clearly lead me to think that in case of Duelling Dragons, since the coaster tracks are separate, the queue lines are separate and each of them forms an architectural, if artfully intertwined, unit of itself, we are confronted with two separate coasters of the same type forming a new semantic and architectural unit: the Double Coaster.
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Sunday, August 24, 2003 6:46 AM
It is two seperate rides.

They ARE similar designs, but with small variations and such. Fire and Ice are much much different. Most prefer Fire, although I like Ice.

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Sunday, August 24, 2003 7:40 AM
How can there even be a debate as if they are two seperate coasters? They are 2 completely different layouts that aren't connected to each other in any way. As for wait times, the longest I've had to wait was from the drawbridge at the front of the castle, done it twice, and only took a little over 30 minutes. I think Dueling Dragons must have the best capacity of any attraction. 6 total trains, 32 seats per train.

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Sunday, August 24, 2003 8:07 AM
If it were considered 1 coaster, and Fire & Ice both have 5 inversions, then it would be considered a 10 inversion coaster and share the record w/ Colosus for 10 inversions (which it doesn't).
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Sunday, August 24, 2003 8:53 AM
A quote from the IOA website:

"They’re the world’s first inverted, dueling roller-coasters. Soar 125 feet in the air and reach speeds of 55 mph on TWO UNIQUE RIDES "

That's their capitalization, not mine. I'd say it's two and that's not really opinion - seems like fact when the park it making it that clear.

Although I find it interesting that Amusement Today's 2003 Golden Ticket list has DD as a single listing and even RCDB seems to list it as one ride.

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Sunday, August 24, 2003 9:39 AM
The Dueling Dragons are like a married couple: A collective for two distinct things. Husband, Wife, Fire, Ice.... one thing made of two.


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