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mOOSH
Mamoosh said:
Anonymouse sez: "I'll be traveling 2000 miles for my once-every-two-years trip to Cedar Point in very early July (prior to the 4th)."No offense, but if Dragster is not open on your visit you have no reason to be angry. Reports of it's major downtime have been widely documented on this and other forums. Planning a trip before word that it's operating without problems is stupid, at best.
Frankly I'm still unsure why everyone is surprised Dragster is experiencing so many problems. I love Intamin rides [SFNE's Superman is my #1 steelie] but they are historically problematic, especially their prototypes.
Please, people...learn from what happened with Volcano, STE, Perilous Plunge, California Screaming, Xcelerator, Acrophobia, PDK's Drop Zone, Wicked Twister, and even X, SOB, and others: wait until a ride is operating reliably to plan a trip!
mOOSH
Read the post! They said they are traveling 2000 miles. Dont you think that requires a little pre planning? Like maybe months ahead of time?? So how or why are they stupid for doing that? They also never said they would be angry if it wasnt running, where did you get that? Telling someone how they should feel is ridiculous anyway. If this person is disappointed its not running, what is wrong with that? Its their emotions, not yours. Just because you can go there all the time and are not disappointed doesnt mean everyone else should feel the same.
Its amazing to me to see all the excuses popping up now. Most of these same people were saying in May when it was breaking down every day "Dont worry, they are working the kinks out, wait until after Memorial Day, this is pre season anyway". Well last I checked the situation is worse and it barely runs period now. So now, these same people are saying they expected all these problems and you are stupid if you thought it would running. Whats wrong with this picture?
If you say Dragster is a prototype then you have to say M. Force was also. M. Force was running almost every single day its first season. So I dont see how you can say all prototype rides have these major problems. Dragster is a 2nd generation prototype, like M. Force. They obviously went to big, too fast. Who requested they go this big? CP. But thats impossible, CP cant make mistakes!!!???
I have been to CP twice this year and I knew Dragster would be down both times I went. I wasnt angry, but it is disappointing to see the thing in person and not be able to ride it. I dont know why some of you think that is stupid to feel that way.
I think CP is a great park and I think they have done their best to handle a very bad situation. I just dont understand why some of you constantly slam those that say they are disappointed or that they planned their trip so they could ride Dragster. Just understand that others will be disappointed and alot of people did plan to go to CP this year specifically to ride Dragster. Almost no one predicted these kind of huge problems or down time this far into the season beforehand, in fact, most of you were saying CP would handle it great and capacity would be no problem.
I think we all need to stop the slamming of each other. I would agree that someone that comes in saying CP Stinks, or Dragster is a piece of crap is ridiculous and that invites it. But someone merely expressing disappointment or saying they will wait to go to CP until Dragster is running does not IMO.
CP Twister said:
Just because you can go there all the time and are not disappointed doesnt mean everyone else should feel the same.
Moosh goes to CP all the time? He must have his own private jet or something.
Mamoosh said:
Planning a trip before word that it's operating without problems is stupid, at best.mOOSH
Again, no offense, but he probably planned that trip MONTHS ago, thinking, (with cedar Points good prior ride experience), that surly Dragster would be running with out serious problems by JULY. It could be the week he has off, and he has to go then, Dragster or no Dragster. Im in basically the same boat, my family is heading to Pennsylvania from Illinois to see a wedding, and stopping at CP for a day and a half. Theres no way we could possibly re-schedule. So stop calling people stupid for planning a trip in July, its not our fault Dragster cant run properly. Granted, Im going July 7th and 8th, and im going to enjoy myself even if Dragster isnt operating, but its going to put a serious dent in my day, you can be sure of that. We have every reason to be angry at Cedar Point, for opening a ride far before its time.
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CP Twister said:
Read the post! They said they are traveling 2000 miles. Dont you think that requires a little pre planning? Like maybe months ahead of time?? So how or why are they stupid for doing that?
Well, would you plan a 2,000 mile trip based only upon a soft-opening? a media day for a ride that may not be finished?
I'd hope not. All 'moosh is suggesting, and forgive me if I'm stepping on any toes, is that
it'd be wiser to wait until Top Thrill Dragster is known to be operating reliably before planning such a trip -- particularly if that single ride is the entire focus of the trip. You don't book a flight to Texas without knowing it lands in Texas.
I've heard that Top Thrill Dragster has been in intense therapy for the last week, talking things through while hoping to resolve its many issues. In a statement, the ride's therapist said, "Yesterday, it broke down into tears after admitting that it felt very short and lacked the staying power of some of its smaller brethren. It was a real breakthrough."
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So...I'm not surprised I might not get to ride this summer, but it is disappointing, nonetheless.
Everyone's climbing all over these guys slamming them and they have said that they'd be disappointed but it wouldn't ruin their trip if TTD wasn't working. In fact, Anonymouse - the person traveling 2,000 miles, said he goes to CP every two years for the 4th of July. That doesn't -to me at least- scream out that he is planning on going to CP JUST to ride TTD.
When you have to travel great distances to get to a park, it take a good amount of planning to get the best rates to make the trip affordable. I made my plans for my August trip to CP all the way back in January!
If TTD is down when I get there, will I be bummed, disappointed, and generally saddened by the fact that it is down? Heck yeah! Will it ruin my trip, heck no!
Last year when I made my once annual trip to CP, WT was down...was I bummed, disappointed, etc? Yes, but the way I see it is the WORST day coaster riding is still better than the best day at work!!!
On a separate note, I should dig up some of the old threads where I would guess that many of you people who are defending CP/TTD to the death were the same ones lambasting SF over X and/or DejaVu.
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*** This post was edited by redman822 6/25/2003 2:56:21 PM ***
redman822 said:
Call me blind, but where did ANYONE in this thread say they were traveling 2,000 where "that single ride is the entire focus of the trip." (that was a quote from Chernabog)
I didn't read the entire thread (I know, I know!! I'd like a blindfold and a mushrooms on my tombstone, please!) but I was just sayin', y'know, that if someone were to make TTD the entire focus of their trip, you'd expect that they'd be a little more sensible at planning it.
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--Maddie--
What do I Listen-To?
then once your logged on just click and you have the page, or check there has to be a phone number for the thing, as far as people working in it, I heard numberous rumors as to what the actual probel is, I do know that around coastermania they were supposedly waiting for parts, so you cant fix things or work on a ride with out parts, then I heard is a programing or electrical problem in the control booth, then I have also heard that Intamin is taking there good old time diagnosing the problem, but all in all it pisses me off but honestly, i have season passes and live an hr from the park and only one time this year it was running while i was there the line was short I was about an hr in line than rain came and since then the damn things been down, but honestly I didnt expect to ride this ride until next year or late fall at the earliest, new rides seem to always be malfunstioning, hey maybe they used microsoft programs in the computer system, thatd sure explain some probelms, atleast all the other rides seem to be consistanly running.
I hope this doesn't turn out to be a finacial burden for Cedar Point. I am really hoping that this new ride doesn't go the way of the Bat at King's Island. That would be very sad. Intamin shouldn't charge them if they had design flaws. They should be fixing it free of charge for them, but you never know. I think if they can't get it up and running by next summer, that the Bat's fate will also be Top Thrill Dragsters.
I have been to CP on 3 different days. I drive over 3 hours to get there and it wasn't running on any of the days I was there. I am not mad, just a bit disappointed. I know I will get to ride it someday. There is really no reason to complain until it gets late in the season. By then they really should have it running unless there is a major design flaw. Until then I am going to enjoy their other rides!
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If Anonymouse goes to CP every two years than he/she has nothing to worry about. I'm sure in 2005 Dragster will be working fine and most of crowds will be off riding #17.
But Maddie said it best: don't plan your trips with one single ride as it's focus.
mOOSH
Sorry, but you just don't seem to get it.
Why would you expect Dragster to perform like Millie? Those are two totally different types coasters! You should have expected Dragster to experience the same kind of downtime as Xcelerator [which it has].
Fact remains that history has taught us over and over and over again NOT to assume that any ride, new or old, is going to be open when you visit a park. People got angry when they planned trips around SOB's opening, X's opening, Xcelerator's opening, and on and on....have you all not learned *anything*??
I stand by my claim that anyone who plans a trip around a single attraction is an idiot, no matter when the trip is planned. I'm sorry if that offends some of you, but I'm not going to apologive for my opinion.
I'd been planning my trip to ACE Con at BGW and PKD for well over a year but I wasn't stupid enough to plan the trip only because PKD's Drop Zone was opening [and it, too, was down a lot last week].
mOOSH
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I'm sorry if that offends some of you, but I'm not going to apologive for my opinion.
I wouldn't apologive either.
What wouldn't I be doing? Is that like when a park hands out free tickets or soemthing?
*** This post was edited by CoastaPlaya 6/25/2003 7:06:46 PM ***
Robster said:
I get the feeling that the majority of those pulling the "It's your tough luck - why should you expect it to be open?" are those who were either invited to the media day, or were lucky with the day of their visit.
No, we're the ones who decided to wait a year or two so that all the bugs are worked out.
I live in LA and experienced the frustration of trying to ride Xcelerator after it "opened" last year. Once Dragster was announced I assumed the ride would have similar problems and decided not to plan a trip to CP until next year [at the earliest] but certainly not until it's been reported that the ride is operating more reliably. Actually Dragster doesn't appeal to me much so I figured I'd wait until coaster #17 was open and operating, probably in 2005 [which a search for my previous posts on the matter will prove]. I'm in no rush to get back to Cedar Point.
Robster - find me one park that would say "we're building a new coaster but we're not sure how well it will run when it opens, so hold off on planning your trips."
Those who have not learned from history are doomed to repeat it.
mOOSH
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*** This post was edited by Mamoosh 6/25/2003 6:36:16 PM ***
mOOSH
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Well, I did get some speculation while talking to a maintenance worker today before my sister got us kicked out of the park.
Intamin and the park HAVE been working around the clock, but the problem is with getting the required parts. The ride has been dormant this long due to the parts. It has nothing to do with fixing a problem and finding a new one.
The proposed opening next weekend is the earliest speculation based on the time to install the parts, and test the ride. BUT it is possible that the time to install and test the new parts will be less, depending on how many overtime hours are put in ;-).
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