Downtime at Holiday World

Thursday, May 28, 2009 2:32 AM
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I think it really helps when you have an owner who IS a coaster enthusiast.

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Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:18 PM
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DantheCoasterman said:
I'm sure Holiday World is well aware of the demand for a large steel coaster in their park

[citation needed]

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Thursday, May 28, 2009 6:11 PM
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Just look at their other blog where guests give feedback about their visit. "You need a steel coaster with loops" is all over it.

When they finally bring in a big steel coaster, I hope they opt for a great terrain-oriented layout along the lines of Revolution or Mind Bender and not another Boring & Mundane inversion orgy. After all, it's gotta be family friendly and pleasing to enthusiasts right? ;)

As for the extensive downtime... if they'd stick to simpler rides without gimmicks like elevator lifts, computer-controlled launches and restraint position sensors, the controls system would be much easier to keep under "control". El Toro breaks down every day and is often down for a long time, but The Voyage is hardly ever down for long. Yay technology.


AV Matt
Long live the Big Bad Wolf

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Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:27 PM
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Nothing is more complicated than those damn hydraulic launches. I mean, two switches for every one of those brake fins. One goes bad, and the ride goes down.


Jeff - Editor - CoasterBuzz.com - My Blog - Silly Nonsense

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Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:36 PM
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So long was we're playing the "Holiday World Needs A Steel Coaster" game I'll chime in with my wish: a custom Gerstlauer spinner themed to one of those firecrackers that spins after you light it. The station could be themed to a fireworks factory.

Current Gerstaluer spinners such as WOF's Spinning Dragons has that wide sweaping turn mid-ride. Should that be incorporated into the layout they could place it around the carousel, with the rest of the ride on the hillside between there and Funtown.

It's family-friendly and hella-fun (yes, I said "hella" in 2009).

I've got it all planned already. Will just needs to give me a call, lol ;)

Last edited by Mamoosh, Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:37 PM
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Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:58 PM

Acoustic Viscosity said: but The Voyage is hardly ever down for long. Yay technology.

I remember May of 2006 very well, when we went through the same thing with The Voyage. It took a while, but it became very reliable. We expect no less from Pilgrims Plunge.

And yes, we know folks want a "metal" coaster. :)

Thanks, Paula


Paula Werne
Holiday World

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Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:13 PM

DantheCoasterman said:I'm sure Holiday World is well aware of the demand for a large steel coaster in their park, and whether they like it or not, TGG doesn't produce steel coasters.They also have a trend of releasing '#1' rides, and if you take a look at recent steel coaster polls, it's pretty obvious which company tends to produce those... (Which is why I'm hoping that Pilgrims Plunge doesn't ruin their relationship with that company.)

I think a Gerstlauer or Intamin coaster like Saw or Farenhight would work great at HW. Id name it firecracker and have effects at the top of the lifts like Mystery mine. IM sure a hundred foot lift say like where the Eagles Flight is could produce a 150+ft drop. The station would sit much lower somewhere near the down there.Just a wish, I don't expect it soon.

Moosh, Mice are a dime a dozen anymore. A custom Euro Fighter or Vertical lift Intamin with their weird elements fit me to a T in the steel department. Besides, HW is a family park with KICK BUTT RIDES and the FAMILYS LOVE IT!
Chuck

Last edited by Charles Nungester, Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:16 PM
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Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:36 PM

When I was at Holiday World on 5/16 the Plunge was up and down all day long. Luckily I did manage to get one ride in.

I remember reading an interview where Will said he loves launched coasters. I think something like Jet Rescue at Sea World Australia would fit perfectly and would be unique to the US (also built by Intamin).


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Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:04 PM
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I believe that would be a "Jumping Jack" Mooshie. And I think that would be a rather nice addition to the park after they fill the "want" for loopty-loops.

The Eurofighters are neat, but the OTSR's kill the rides for me. And the vertical lift is just an unnecessary complication to the system. And all of those coasters seem to be low capacity rides which seems to be a major concern for the park.

A launch system seems to significantly increase the cost of a ride which usually means a shorter track to balance the added cost. And of course modern launches take a lot of power and controls, which just spells trouble.

I'd like to see a Premier or Zierer coaster with lapbars and a retro Schwarzkopf style layout with drops and airtime and a couple of loops. Heck just make a clone of SFOG's Mind Bender and they'll have themselves a winner. I don't think anyone would complain if there were more of them around, except for maybe Andy and Nate. ;)


AV Matt
Long live the Big Bad Wolf

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Friday, May 29, 2009 12:38 AM
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matt. said:
[citation needed]

:) Here ya go:

Raven Maven said:
And yes, we know folks want a "metal" coaster. :)

I personally would love to see a metal coaster. \m/

Last edited by Lord Gonchar, Friday, May 29, 2009 12:38 AM
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Friday, May 29, 2009 12:52 AM

Alot of us here can complain about Beemer coasters (boring, repetitive, etc.) but if HW bought one, I think it would be a hit and a safer bet as far as steel coasters go.


My favorite MJ tune: "Billie Jean" which I have been listening to alot now. RIP MJ.

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Friday, May 29, 2009 12:47 PM

Jeff said:
Which part of the article suggested any fear? All I got out of it was, "Hey, if you were planning to go, you're S.O.L., it's not running."

So the wire services have decided to inform people which attractions aren't operating at which parks? Awfully kind of them; this was picked up by AP, after all.

I don't see it that way. IMO, it's the typical "ooooh, here's a brand new ride that's already not working perfectly." Same thing happened last year @ Hershey when Fahrenheit valleyed during testing on its Opening Day.

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Friday, May 29, 2009 1:00 PM

Raven Maven said:

And yes, we know folks want a "metal" coaster. :)

That rocks!


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Friday, May 29, 2009 1:57 PM
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Depending on the arrangement with the individual papers, potentially every story is syndicated. AP doesn't decide on the newsworthiness of every story submitted.


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Friday, May 29, 2009 2:17 PM
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I wouldn't complain about another Mindbender. I just wouldn't understand why people loved it so much.


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Friday, May 29, 2009 6:05 PM
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How about a Spinning Coaster called "Mashed Potato"

Im still hoping for a Giant Wheel, Swinging Ship and Tea Cups one day, and maybe a Disk-O or Chance Revolution (not to be confused by the Zero Gravity named "Revolution" already at the park)

I woudn't mind seeing an upsidedown thrill ride... I was at a carnival recently, and these little kids each tried to show off how brave they were by hopping on the Loop-O-Plane. Zamperla has the similar Double-Sweep Hawk, which is great for capacity.

Anyway.. enough of my wishlist.

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Friday, May 29, 2009 6:40 PM

How about 500 foot deuling flyers? Call it "Veterens Day and put it between the Thanksgiving & Haloween sections. Better yet, make it a 4-way dogfight with each track theamed for the Army, Navy, Mariens, and Air Force.


Coaster Junkie from NH
I drive in & out of Boston, so I ride coasters to relax!

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Friday, May 29, 2009 7:39 PM
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Andy, it's all about the lap bars and freedom of movement on the Antons compared to the restrictive head-banging OTSR's on most every other looper. Plus you get several drops with airtime which for many is WAY more interesting than being turned upside down over and over again.


AV Matt
Long live the Big Bad Wolf

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Saturday, May 30, 2009 11:58 AM

Can we change the thread's topic to "Uptime at Holiday World"? :)

Thanks, Paula


Paula Werne
Holiday World

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Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:31 PM

You spoil the fun for us here! Now, when the heck are you guys gonna open a HW park closer to Concord, NH????? :)


Coaster Junkie from NH
I drive in & out of Boston, so I ride coasters to relax!

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