Posted Monday, November 3, 2003 5:01 AM | Contributed by LadyLegolasGreenleaf
Dollywood is dropping its free admission policy for guests in wheelchairs or those who are blind or deaf. The park says they're responding to a lawsuit alleging that the practice violates the Americans with Disabilities Act.
Read more from AP via WBIR/Knoxville.
Nice gesture on Dollywood's part to have offered it, too bad the "equal treatment" means they need to take it away.
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Yes they are. Don't get me wrong, I am sympathetic to handicapped patrons... but a MAJOR problem exists. Where do you draw the line? Because parks fear lawsuits they cannot and often do not make determinations of who is, or who is not, considered handicapped. So the system gets obscured and handicap perks get mis-used.
" think that they have to wait for a time period corresponding to how long the line is before riding."
This, would seem fair... but it is not an active practice. Most parks allow handicapped guests to enter through the exit and in order to shuffle them through, they get them on the ride as soon as possible. Numerous handicap guests can back up (since most parks have a policy of only allowing one handicapped rider on a ride at a time no matter how many trains etc. are running.) But bottom line, people often "fake" or "milk" a handicap because it gains them and their friends exit access and minimal waits.
"Many parks have the ride exit as the special access gate."
And there-in lies the problem. Not only does this create a bottle-neck at the ride's exit... but it also makes it difficult for the legitimate handicap patrons to get there. It's the fish swimming upstream effect.
By today's standards, queue lines are required to be wide enough to accomidate wheelchairs. But, even though they are made wide to accomidate them, parks do not utilize them. Instead they use the exit... for several reasons. Often the exit can be made into a series of ramps, whereas queue lines often have stairs to climb etc. Also, because rides are often designed so that you exit to the opposite side from which you boarded, this negates the opportunity for wheelchair bound person to enter through the main que. Ohterwise there would be a need to "pass" the wheelchair across the ride platform.
IMO, I cannot believe parks have not wised up to a simple solution to this. They could make the handicap person wait while their companions wait through the regular queue. Or they could make the loading side of coasters wide enough to accommodate a wheelchair, and have a special accessible exit on the load side. Or utilize a special Lo-Que system that times out a wait for a ride so that the handicapped person is instructed to return to the ride after an equivilant wait period.
Having been a ride op, I know it is just as frustrating to the crew as it is to the guests to see a flurry of handicap people continually shuffling up the exits with special priveleges. What is worse it 9 times out of 10, the handicap patron requests a prime seat.
I used to shudder at having to approach those who had been waiting over an hour for a front seat ride, and ask them to wait while a kid with an ingrown toenail took their seat.
I obviously witnessed some severely handicapped patrons too who legitimately deserved the special access... however poorly it was orchestrated by the park.
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Perhaps on the rides with wide-enough queues?
But what about older rides where the queues are not wide enough? Like Beast, Thornberries, Racer and Vortex. Or the rides where the queues have steps or hard to manuever areas, like Top Gun and Drop Zone.
Just yesterday I saw a line of Handicaps at the exits of most every attraction I passed at the park. Also, it seems SOB consistantly has handicaps coming up the exit... all related to getting the wheelchair across the tracks I believe.
Dollywood, which seems to hate the idea of being forced to do this, is now going to make donations to different charities/societies/funds that help the handicapped. the donations will be in the same amount that they would usually have given in free admissions.
take that evil woman who sues for no real reason!! (except that maybe she thought she was handicapped by greed and stupidity and was refused free admission)
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I've seen this practice at both Knotts and SFMM.
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You have just described almost every law congress passes these days. We're not allowed to say this though! Shame on you. We're just supposed to look at thos good intentions and ignore any real world results. They meant well. Nevermind if the outcome is a dismal failure. The fact you had the nerve to say this means you hate the disabled (put any other PC word of choice in here for any other social law of choice)! You pathetic loser! How dare you!
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I think that's great that they are going to donate the cash they make. It's still not as good as giving the discount to someone who deserves it though.
Perhaps the people who brought up this case should visit there nearest Six Flags, then figure out who needs to be corrected.
*** This post was edited by Dukeis#1 11/3/2003 6:13:37 PM ***
SEC. 302. PROHIBITION OF DISCRIMINATION BY PUBLIC ACCOMMODATIONS.
(a) General Rule.--No individual shall be discriminated against on the basis of disability in the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, or accommodations of any place of public accommodation by any person who owns, leases (or leases to), or operates a place of public accommodation.
I'm not sure how that can be interpreted to apply to non-disabled persons, but apparently it has been.
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