Does replicating classics destroy the legend?

Friday, February 22, 2002 5:29 PM
If a classic like the Riverview Bobs(rwb doesn't count), EB Flying Turns, Aeroplane Coaster, or Crystal Beach Cyclone, would that destroy their legendary past since now it could be experienced to degree? Just think, the Crystal Beach Cyclone was the most terrifying ride and is still talked about 60 years after it was torn down. Would a replica do it justice, or ruin it's legend?
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Friday, February 22, 2002 5:34 PM
I think it extends the legend to a new generation that couldn't be around for the original, which is a good thing! Knoebel's Twister comes to mind as a great reincarnation of a past legend.
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Friday, February 22, 2002 7:24 PM
Nahh, if anything it compliments them and shows the respect the original deserves when replicas are constructed.

The Coney Island Cyclone is probably the best example of that even though the original is still putting butts in the seats.

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Saturday, February 23, 2002 6:31 AM
I agree, the Twister is a great example. Most people don't even realize that the coaster isn't really an original plan until they get to the brake lever where it tells the story. But I feel replicating old classics gives a newer generation a chance to ride a coaster they would have never got to ride.
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Saturday, February 23, 2002 11:20 AM
Thats an excellent point, bigkirby!

I don't think anyone can answer that, though, because I don't think that ANY classic wooden coaster has been replicated exactly.  The Six Flags Cyclone clones are all somewhat different from the Keenan original.  The Knoebels Twister is a heavily modified version of the defunct Denver model.  And I won't even go into the whole Raging Wolf Bobs thing.  I guess if some park were to take a ride like the Idora Wildcat or the Long Beach Pike Cyclone Racer and construct a true copy, then we will know for sure.  Until then, I dunno...

On the flip side of the whole thing are those rides that were relocated, like the Playland Rocket and Crystal Beach Comet.  The Rocket seems to have become legendary since it became the Phoenix, even though the ride is almost the same as it was when it was in Texas (minus a trim brake and slightly different trains).  The Great Escape Comet seems to rank just as highly today as it did when it was this out-of-the-way woodie in Canada.  Looking at the Comet, a woodie relocated with no changes besides trains, maybe an exact replica of a classic COULD be just as legendary if done correctly.

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Saturday, February 23, 2002 11:37 AM
Why certainly! When ever I ride the Viper at SFGRAm I always fell a bit of nostalgia because to me it was based on a classic.
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Saturday, February 23, 2002 11:48 AM
Do you think anbody will ever clone the dreaded crystal beach cyclone again?
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Saturday, February 23, 2002 12:03 PM
Unless it was an enthusiast who owned the park, then no.
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Saturday, February 23, 2002 12:09 PM
gotta agree with the majority here (first time for everything, huh?).  Imitation IS the highest form of flattery, and the reproductions ADD to the legend rather than take from it.  Relocating a ride is also a huge compliment.  When I found out this Fall that my uncle enjoyed riding the Rocket as much as I have enjoyed Phoenix (in only ONE trip to KG), it was really special.  I would/do really appreciate being able to ride some recreations of the older classics like those from Riverview or Coney, even if some of them are more true to the layout/feel of the original than others...

But with the liability lawsuits we have today, I think it's less likely than ever to see TRUE reproductions of some of those (admittedly dangerous) rides...

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Saturday, February 23, 2002 2:44 PM
About re-creating the CBC...

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if that thing was re-created some day. Obviously, they'd have to "tone it down" so that the re-creation would no longer require a first aid station at the station. But, it was such an insane ride originally that it would probably still be a good ride toned down. However, one problem remains... I know many people, even people who like roller coasters, who have never heard of even the CIC, let alone the CBC.  The advertising for the re-creation would have to include pics of the original CBC and explanations that it was one of the most intense coasters ever built.

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