Does anyone like flying coasters

Friday, August 6, 2004 7:55 AM
I have only been on one flyer. It was XFlight at GL I didn't really like it I thought it hert too much. That's my opinion though. Any thoughts?
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Friday, August 6, 2004 8:15 AM
I love S:UF at GAdv, it's the only coaster that I ever greyed out on. And Batwing would be probably with my favorite coaster if not for the scary design of the shoulder harness clasp...I mean something that looks like a seat belt buckle that you fall into as it flips you over kinda freaked me out for the first few rides. I would definitely say i like Flyers and hope to ride more as i travel.
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Friday, August 6, 2004 8:24 AM
If B&M could use Vokoma Track LAy out, I would love flying coasters!
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Friday, August 6, 2004 8:25 AM
I absolutely despise the Vekoma style flying coaster. BORG at Carowinds is a waste of land, IMO. The ride is painful, and downright uncomfortable. This is a novelty coaster, similar to the stand-ups and suspendeds. No one will buying these in another 5 years and they will all become park dinosours! Whooo......that felt better ;)
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Friday, August 6, 2004 8:30 AM
I cannot understand how anyone could be hurt by flying coasters? The restraints are like floating on air, they're the most comfortable things I have ever experienced on a coaster, I could literally fall asleep in the seats of a Vekoma Flyer. The Vekoma loop is also the most intense loop out there. The B&M version is fun because you're under the track more, but I prefer the layout and forces of the original Vekoma Flyer (Stealth/BorgAss). I think flyers are great, and am mystified (or mistified, right Peabody? ;) ) by how people could get hurt on something that doesn't even have a solid piece for you to bang your head off of!

Are those that think they hurt "larger" people?

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Friday, August 6, 2004 8:35 AM
I have been on Superman: UF at SFoG and SFGAm. I loved them. They are much better than Stand ups from my perspective.
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Friday, August 6, 2004 8:41 AM
Brett, I am a "larger" person and I find the B&M Flyer restraints to be one of the most comfortable restraint systems out there. I have never noticed ANY head banging or any part of the ride that would be painful, in fact, Superman is one of the smoothest rides I have been on.

As for the Vekoma flyer, I have been on X-Flight and I found that ride to be very good as well. In fact, the ride itself is actually better than the B&M. The restraint system isn't as comfortable, but no where in the ride was it painful. I actually found X-Flight to be one of the smoothest Vekoma's I have ever ridden. The only gripe I have with X-Flight is the extended time laying on your back while on the break run or in the station. It's tilted at an angle that is just past horizontal, causing the blood to rush to your head.

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Friday, August 6, 2004 9:43 AM
The only flyer I've been on is S:UF@SGOG, and I absolutely love the ride, but I cannot stand hanging on the brakes for five minutes at the end of the ride! The way the restraints are designed, my arms start to got to sleep, and I kinda wonder why they didn't think about this and make the train lower before it comes into the station. But anyway, I loved the thing, and would love to have one here at good ol' DW!

JOE

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Friday, August 6, 2004 9:49 AM
Only two flyers I have been on are Batwing and BORG. If I return to SFA or Carowinds, I will probably give these a pass the next time.

The restraints are uncomfortable, and in the case of Batwing the ride is rough. Rode them "once for the count" and moved on.

Now to be fair, I am not condeming all flyers... just the Vekoma models. Never encountered a B&M yet.

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Friday, August 6, 2004 10:08 AM

Crashmando said:
If B&M could use Vekoma Track layout, I would love flying coasters!

I have to second that. Since S:UF opened at SFGAdv I've said that the restraints and "feel" of the ride are great, but that the whole ride itself would be a lot more exciting if it were one of the Vekoma layouts.

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Friday, August 6, 2004 10:20 AM
I've been on X Flight and hated it, felt like I was falling out. I thought Superman at SFGA would be better, but it was just painful and not fun at all....flyers and standups are just not enjoyable....give me a classic woodie any day...
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Friday, August 6, 2004 10:39 AM
S:UF to me is quite boring (except the pretzel lop in the back seats). I do find this ride more comfortable on the chest, and do not fell like I will fall out, but it really hurts my shins (on my short little legs).

I have also been on Stealth (pre-BORG) and X-Flight (GL) a few times each. I do think that these rides are quite more exciting than S:UF, and I also really prefer the lifts hills on my back as well. But the harnesses on Stealth and X-Flight do not make feel quite secure, even though the ride is more exhilarating. I have to say that flying coasters are the only coasters (aside from standups) that I am happy when the ride ends.

The pitfall to my issue with flying coasters is that they are my husband's favorite, so we tend to split up at any park that has them. I'll take an invert any day over a flying coaster (well, except T2). So like the standups, I do the flying coasters for the points, and not really for the pleasure.

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Friday, August 6, 2004 10:57 AM
I find the Vekoma models to definitley be the most intense even if they might be a tad rough. The B&Ms are nice and smooth but besides the pretzel loop are rather boring. It should be interesting to see what kind of custom layups they come up with next, as they could be pretty wild. The Zamperla model as far as I'm concerned is a piece of junk. It absolutely murdered my shoulders.
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Friday, August 6, 2004 11:03 AM
There isn't a damn thing comfortable about riding in the back seat through the pretzel loop on the B&M rides.

Yawn. Stupid gimmick. The public seems to eat these things up, both the Vekoma and B&M variety, and both I find to be mostly uninteresting.

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Friday, August 6, 2004 11:18 AM
The only pro's for the vekoma's are the horseshoe & the helix....those inlines just hurt too much!

At least Batwing hasn't left me waiting in the brakes due to the single train operation,those things also take way too long to load & dispatch leading to a major head rush of blood which is quite uncomfortable,even while in the laydown postition.

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Friday, August 6, 2004 11:52 AM
These things suck! Not much more I can say! :-)
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Friday, August 6, 2004 12:10 PM
Not a big fan of the flyers either. I take a lap at the park when I come across one, but they do little for me.

Vekoma's have the superior layout. B&M has the superior train design. Combine the two and you have the best of both - and it's still not that thrilling.

Expect the flyer to follow a life span similar to the stand-up.

*** Edited 8/6/2004 4:11:01 PM UTC by Lord Gonchar***

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Friday, August 6, 2004 12:38 PM
Jeff, after a few laps at CoasterBuzzCon 2003, I think the only seat I didn't get the "pretzel pressure" in was the first row.

I like S:UF and X-Flight, but they are gimmicks. Better than standups? Yes.

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Friday, August 6, 2004 12:54 PM
Anyone been on Air? I've heard it is quite better than SUF even if it doesn't go as fast...
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Friday, August 6, 2004 1:18 PM
Well, I'm partial. Zamperlas suck. Vekomas rock. The end.
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