Disneyland shuts down Alice in Wonderland ride on worker safety concerns

Posted Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:51 PM | Contributed by Jeff

The Alice in Wonderland ride at Disneyland is closed at least for a few weeks while park officials fix a possible safety problem. On July 15, an official from the CalOSHA, who was at the park on an unrelated matter, saw a maintenance worker on the track of Alice in Wonderland. The state official notified Disney of a “potential safety issue,” so Disney decided to close the ride to install a barrier.

Read more from The Orange County Register.

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Thursday, July 22, 2010 1:45 PM
crazy horse's avatar

The ride has been operating for over 50 years, and now there is a "possible" problem?

Sounds like someone at osha is really bored.


what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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Thursday, July 22, 2010 1:54 PM
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crazy horse said:
The ride has been operating for over 50 years, and now there is a "possible" problem?

Sounds like someone at osha is really bored.

Current buzz is that OSHA's been needling Disney about adding a railing to that part of the ride, which is elevated and very exposed, for a long while now. So far Disney had gotten by with statements that they were working on it, but it seems they finally received enough pressure to have to act.

I've seen first person shots of the area in question, and it does seem somewhat precarious without some kind of railing. Of course, Disneyland fanatics are in uproar and already starting conspiracy theories, like that it's just an excuse to add Johnny Depp to the ride.

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Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:00 PM

Well, with OSHA being the way that it is, its either add a railing to the track or put in an overhead trolley and make the workers tie off to it when they're up there. Either solution is going to make somebody mad. But what can you do? Maybe Disney was claiming that workers never had to walk that track, but obviously someone was up there and someone who works for the AHJ happened to see it.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.


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Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:50 PM

RideMan said:
Maybe Disney was claiming that workers never had to walk that track, but obviously someone was up there and someone who works for the AHJ happened to see it.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Well somebody in the past did a photo essay on what it takes to keep Disneyland going, and a pic of a maintenance person sweeping that track down was shown (currently it's posted on a Disney fan site). So I'd say that excuse didn't work.

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Friday, July 23, 2010 2:31 PM
crazy horse's avatar

Sagretti said:

crazy horse said:
The ride has been operating for over 50 years, and now there is a "possible" problem?

Sounds like someone at osha is really bored.

Current buzz is that OSHA's been needling Disney about adding a railing to that part of the ride, which is elevated and very exposed, for a long while now. So far Disney had gotten by with statements that they were working on it, but it seems they finally received enough pressure to have to act.

I've seen first person shots of the area in question, and it does seem somewhat precarious without some kind of railing. Of course, Disneyland fanatics are in uproar and already starting conspiracy theories, like that it's just an excuse to add Johnny Depp to the ride.

I understand all of that, but the fact is, the ride has been operating for 50 plus years and has never had an issue. Why now? And for them to shut the ride down completly is just silly.

It raises the question "does OSHA have too much power"?

I know osha does some great things, but it just seems like they are nit picking everything now. I have a friend that works at cedar point. Before the park opend for the season, they had employies wiping down the lights in the coaster stations. They were up on ladders with a wet rag. OSHA came in and said that they have to wear eye goggles to wipe down the lights now.

I have heard several stories about OSHA stepping in. Again, I think they do good things in a lot of casses. But I also think it has gotton to the point where they ran out of things to enforce, so now they have to prove there exsistance by making up silly new violations.


what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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Friday, July 23, 2010 8:19 PM
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It's probably more a question of OSHA being handed a pile of silly and not-so-silly regulations by Congress that OSHA has to go forth and enforce.

Having people wear safety goggles while wiping glass bulbs may seem like a silly regulation, but put yourself in the shoes of a mother who's child ended up with eyes filled with shards of glass while performing just that task at their job.


Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
-- Groucho Marx

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Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:00 AM

Okay this is not THE OSHA. this is Cal OSHA, Dept of Occupational Safety & Health, Permament Amusement Ride Divison. Having delt with DOSH in the past, I won't go into what my opinion of this state agency are as it has already been expressed previously on this board.

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Saturday, July 24, 2010 1:10 PM

Dutchman won't say it, so I will:

CalDOSH is a net-revenue-generating department.

--Dave Althoff, jr.


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Saturday, July 24, 2010 10:08 PM

^Exactly. Now they can charge Disney for DOSH to come back to inspect the new barriers.


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